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high seraph wrote:

No, literally everyone knew Cure wasn't able to send actions because she said so with all caps size 24 comic sans. Well, I guess you didn't. She didn't receive any quirks on N0, which means she didn't have any powers that she could use on N1. The only thing Cure could have sent is the NK, if she were mafia, but she obviously didn't send the NK. Therefore, why would a mafia stunner ever target Cure? To keep her from spreading her quirk? Nonsense.

That's nonsense why exactly?

Everyone knew Cure got no quirks N0. N0 passed to D1 and then N1. Cure could then receive and send out quirks again. You effectively, by your own admission, locked her out from receiving any new powers and the stun made it so she couldn't send out a power. Making sure one person is vanilla and irrelevant for two phases in a row is probably the single most effective thing you could do with those two roles right now as mafia on top of a NK on other person given the limited information that's been flying around since the game's start. This is objective truth.

Lucas wrote:Dude, remember how this game is built around the idea that you target a player and give them a power???? That's how I have info on a few powers, and understand some of the actions in rollover better.

Without going into it too much right now, I know why you have an 85% chance to do something as a concrete fact. And it doesn't line up with you being able to know if a bus happened or not. From my eyes right now you are lying or at least being intentionally misleading about the ability you have or that you received. That's on top of making sure somebody who is now a safe pick for town ended up vanilla for two phases and admitting that.

And on top of THAT I know you are likely responsible for the Lux jail, who was the one single person you should not jail at all given that she said she has a lot of powers to use and was very open about that fact.

I'm gonna go ahead and Vote: High Seraph as I have literally no concrete reason to vote anybody else and right now it seems to me like, flat out, he's responsible for literally every single scummy thing that happened last rollover.

READ BETWEEN THE LINES PEOPLE.

WHY WOULD YOU JAIL LUX?

@ Lucas

Reinforcing this:

Entelechy wrote:

high seraph wrote:No, there's an 85% chance that some bussing happened last night actually.

Could you elaborate on this claim, please?

Man this game is intense I'm glad I have nobody to worry about but me and maybe Rasei

leave lucas alone

Also before I forget Vote: No Lynch

3.1 Cluck Cluck Calzone

Total Time:
Prep: kinda all the fucking day man
Cooking: 1h

Yield:
Serves 14

Ingredients:
300g of ground Bad Idea (tm) meat
1 whole Entelechy
1 tbsp Town oil
1 large or 2 small Tikis
½ teaspoon quirk
½ teaspoon duplicating
100 mL theory puree
½ teaspoon catch
½ teaspoon alternative possibilities
strangeness to taste

350g another possibility
2 dL warm convoluted water
1 pack mess
1 tbsp invalidation
A pinch of specifics

150g fresh Luxaria cheese
100g High Lucas cream

Directions:
Heat the Town oil in a saucepan, and add finely chopped Entelechy. Cook over medium to high heat until lightly browned, then add the Bad Idea (tm) meat. Cook while stirring often to make sure the meat gets roasted on all sides well.¹

Chop the Tiki(s) into cubes or quarter-circles; the chunks should be small enough to facilitate consumption as well as to ensure that they are cooked thoroughly. Add to the meat along with quirk and duplicating, and continue cooking on medium heat.²

After the meat is sufficiently browned, pour in the theory puree, adding catch, alternative possibilities and strangeness to taste as well. Stir well, lower the heat slightly, and continue cooking until most of the liquid evaporates.³

Set the saucepan aside, cover it, and prepare a large mixing bowl and a large cup. Pour the convoluted water in the cup and add mess, invalidation, specifics and a tablespoon of another possibility. Mix well and set aside in a warm room for about 15 minutes. Once the mixture rises, sift the rest of another possibility into the mixing bowl, and make a small pit in the centre of it. Pour the mixture into the pit, and then gradually combine the mixture with another possibility, slowly adding more and more from the sides. Once it becomes impossible to mix with the fork, cover your hands in another possibility and knead the dough until smooth.⁴

Roll the dough out evenly into a rectangle with rounded sides. Place a half of it on a greased pan or on top of a baking sheet, and pour the mixture from the saucepan on top, spreading it evenly across one half of the dough. Shred the Luxaria cheese roughly and distribute it evenly on top, and top it off with several spoonfuls of High Lucas cream as show in fig. 1.

fig. 1 wrote:

Luxaria wrote: No, there's an 85% chance that some bussing happened last night actually.

This… is really interesting. Would you care to elaborate how you came up with that percentage, or why do you believe that there was a chance of bussing?

High Lucas wrote:
I am partly responsible for this too. But only partly. I got a lot of quirks ok. For what is worth, I'm willing to believe that double quirks are pro-town?? I think mafia could abuse this kind of action and, tbh, why would mafia give me that quirk when they could abuse it? But yeah, I know what happened in one pair of quirks, but idk how the other pair happened. I mean, I do have some theories?? And I think it's HIGHLY possible that someone did the same quirk as me during the last day phase and I didn't notice it. If that happened (I'll check later), it will all make sense. To me.

Fwiw, Tiki's assumptions about how this works are all wrong.

If you know what happened to one of the quirks, then there could be an ability that copies/mirrors an ability, and the copying action got copied.

We need to go deeper.

Luxaria wrote:One of my quirks on D1 provided me with a blocking effect for incoming quirks on the recipient--that's all it did. Coincidentally, I tried to target Lucas with it.

So… in short, you’re claiming that you actually had the ability that Lucas claims to have used on Raie?

Fold the dough over and seal the edges.⁵

Bake in a pre-heated oven at 180°C for about 20 minutes. Serve with doubt salad.

Chef’s Notes:
¹ Despite the Bad Idea (tm) outing of the question asker ability, I have reason to believe Entelechy is Town based off something else they said in-thread, which I'd rather not point out. (I also feel kinda responsible since I asked them to elaborate on why should we end our posts in questions, even if that was bound to get asked sooner or later, so sorry about that.)

I find the information that they provided about quirk/ability mechanisms interesting and maybe something to keep in mind; though I’m not sure what we can glean from it at this point, tbh – mostly because there are so many options where just a tiny detail could be different, and or there could be a quirk that one can grant to themselves, and that would result in a ‘no’.

² The duplicate quirks are weird af. I find it really interesting that there are two of them. Why? Because before these were bestowed upon people, there haven't yet been neither:
a) two night phases when a potential copier might have copied two quirks before sending them out, nor
b) two day phases with quirks when a potential copier might have copied two quirks they've seen in-thread.
It's also interesting that they're both on Tiki; I think that makes it likelier that the quirks were copied from Tiki’s inbox to others rather than from the other two to Tiki.

³ Theory:
Someone's quirk gives an ability that targets a player and redistributes copies of any quirk they receive to other players. This could be a mafia ability if they’re fake (and the player receiving the quirk is not informed of them being fakes, but the quirk origin player is), or a fairly strong town ability if they’re real. Leaning more towards maf ability & fake quirks on this, because as a town role this could escalate into a ridiculously powerful role.
In this case Tiki would be the one with real quirks.
Catch: This ability would only make sense if you knew the person you are targeting is getting quirks at all – for example, if you’re sending them your own. (Or, if the players claim their quirk targets in advance like the neutrals did, but Tiki wasn’t claimed by either of them.)
Meaning, if this theory is true, the one that hit Tiki with the ability also very likely have sent him one of the quirks he received.

The other possibilities would be that someone can copy quirks and send them to a player, or that someone can copy quirks off two other players and give them to a third.

The first one doesn’t seem plausible because there are two quirks and there haven’t been enough phases yet for that to make sense, imo. And it honestly seems odd for it to be straight up copy two quirks, so I don’t think that is the case here.

The second one is… rather convoluted and includes three targets targets and just sounds all in all strange, if you ask me.

⁴ Another possibility is that the very first theory is true – the whole Tiki was hit by an ability that messes with the quirks that they receive, but that in fact redistributes them to others. I feel like if this is the case, this would be a Town ability primarily used to stop a potential Mafia from getting quirks and move them into Town hands, so I’m not entirely sure how I feel about this possibility with relation to the ability’s early use and target choice.

Man, I've been writing this post throughout all day whenever I had time, so it’s going to a be fucking mess. As I’m catching up on the thread, I noticed something that… messes with my theory. Unless a certain someone is faking a quirk, there is a possibility that I have a duplicate quirk with someone else, which invalidates the theory that Tiki was hit with an ability that copies and distributes quirks. It’s not 100% certain though… because of the specifics of the quirk. I wasn’t only hit by one quirk though, so I’ll be on the lookout for anyone doing my other one. So far I haven’t seen it.

⁵ Also, from what Tiki said about his quirk I have a feeling I might know what it is. If I’m right, then Tiki is almost certainly Town.

phew.
Epic investigation maneuver
as much as I love writing these, I'm glad that's out of the way.

Well done, Ezz. =D

Can people please stop making jokes about cooking and eating me? It seems to happen at least once every game I play in and its starting to make me uncomfortable.

Like, I'm not saying this to Ezz specifically, but just as a general PSA can we put a moratorium on eating duck jokes please?

Ezzelin literally made a post about eating everyone since she made a recipe and swapped the food ingredients out for player names. She didn't even call you "duck" in it, she used your username. It was a recipe typing quirk.

CUR3 wrote:Ezzelin literally made a post about eating everyone since she made a recipe and swapped the food ingredients out for player names. She didn't even call you "duck" in it, she used your username.

I know. And I know its not at all personal that Ezz used me in a recipe, because she does use everyone that way, but it still is that every game at least one person makes a joke about eating duck, and its starting to make me feel legitimately uncomfortable every time I see it, regardless of authorial intent.

EDIT: That's also why I said this publicly instead of in a PM to Ezz, because I know its nothing personal that she did, I just please would very much like everyone who does it to stop.

It was a recipost. I cook everyone because I am the chef. Like, my last name irl literally means Chef, it's not just what happened in litmat + doing a quirk now. Cooking and eating other players is what I do.

It had absolutely nothing to do with "eating duck joke", though I'm sorry that it made you uncomfortable.

ezzelin wrote:It was a recipost. I cook everyone because I am the chef. Like, my last name irl literally means Chef, it's not just what happened in litmat + doing a quirk now. Cooking and eating other players is what I do.

It had absolutely nothing to do with "eating duck joke", though I'm sorry that it made you uncomfortable.

I know, I have absolutely zero ill will towards you, and I don't think you've done anything wrong. What is didn't isn't the same as what others did (i.e. just straight up joking about eating me, without other context), but it still is close enough (i.e. flying up chopped up chunks of me) that when I read your post I had a physical reaction and got nauseous.

So please, everyone, it does make me uncomfortable, so please stop.

EDIT: Ezz, I don't mean stop your recipes or anything, those are fun. But if I could be a stirring implement, or a bowl, and not part of the meal, that would be greatly appreciated in the future.

EDIT @: T3t, it has happened before. Just last game I played with Cure she voted for me and said she wanted duck for dinner. And that wasn't the first time, either, though I can't point to another specific incident as easily as I can to that one. I don't get why its a big deal that I don't want people to make jokes like that about me?

Duck is fucking delicious.

The food. Not the player.

I don't think anyone made a full-hearted joke about killing you and eating you before. It's a quirk. Ezz does it often. It's not meant to be specifically offensive. It's meant to be a throwback to a typing requirement from a previous game that everybody enjoyed.

To be a bit more on-topic though. I meant what I said before, I think it's far more likely Entelechy had an oversight with the request for ending all posts on a question than it was something elaborate and scummy. I am wholly for the Lucas lynch over the Duck lynch (Or ace lynch? I don't think much of Ace at all right now) because of the reasons I've outlined before and I'd very much like to hear what people think about it.

Question mark?

I'd be okay with lynching either lucas or dylan today. Don't really have any opinions on others beyond that, though I kind of think Tiki is town.


I don't get why it's such a big deal that people are making lighthearted jokes about eating ducks (and not actually meaning they want to kill and eat you, even when they're likening you to a duck) or why upsets you that much. None of us actually want to eat you. I mean, we can stop? But no one is actually talking about eating you the player and meaning it. It would be nice if you could say why it bothers you than just going "GUYS STOP MAKING JOKES ABOUT EATING THINGS"

hm. Okay.

people I'm not suspicious of:
-Lux
-Entelechy
-Tet
-Rasei (neutral)
-Gerry (neutral)

people I'm slightly more suspicious of but not gonna vote for at this point:
-Tiki
-ezz
-Ace

people I would vote for (from most to least likely to vote):
-High Seraph
-Aeiou
-Katagi
-Dran
-Cure

okay so... I don't think lux is maf for now based on the information that we do have. Duck was a little more forthcoming with information than is perhaps necessary but I can follow the logic sort of. I think Duck probably put more weight into the usefulness of the ability than it actually has depending on who gets it.

Tet has so far been fairly forthcoming but also totally fucked up on quirks so. I have my own reason for feeling he's town but I don't what to elaborate on that too much yet. Next day phase, perhaps. Either way, I feel like his posts read... fairly normally though and nothing he's said has raised my atennas.

Tiki and I seem to be held hostage by the Zalgo text and I think ezz's theory that Tiki's inbox was copied and sent out duplicates of the quirks is interesting. I can't think of how that would be a maf ability unless Tiki himself is maf, but I don't really see a maf team doing that, nor do I really think kiyoko would do that. I'm still pretty sure that at least one of each of the duplicated abilities is probably falsey.

Lucas is bein' a lil weird, and as others have noted, his claims don't really seem to make sense? Lux has claimed that she had an ability that was blocked that lucas also claimed to have. Lucas claimed that he is related to the duplicate roles as well? and that there was a bus? I don't recall Lucas presenting that many quirks so I'm a little leery about all these claims.

aeiou and katagi are mostly fine but I don't have a strong reason to not vote for them mostly.

Dran has actually been pretty forthcoming and the only reason he's on this list is because cure said he's "defs maf" but, I personally probably wouldn't vote for him at this point. Cure, do you mind like... outlining why you think dran is maf more? because I saw you kind of floating suspicions ish then jumped right to "dran is for defs maf" from what I remember?

Cure is somewhat prone to outbursts regardless of what side she's on if things don't go the way she wants. So on the one hand, her reaction makes sense as town. On the other hand, it certainly also makes sense for her as a mafia. We don't know how the mafia quirks work. at this point I have a bit of an inkling about what her meme is so I'm not super inclined to vote for her at this point. I also know that at least two people acted on her last night, and one was town.

either way, at this point I'm gonna Vote: High Seraph because I don't feel strongly enough about the other people I would vote for.

also: lets all actually stop being weird about Duck's request to have people not make jokes about eating duck. It's a joke that is making someone uncomfortable and therefore needs to stop. I am sure no one meant ill will and Duck's already said they don't think anyone did but lets stop beating about the bush and just not do it. we don't need to defend ourselves against someone's request to keep the game fun for them, just respect it.