catching up w thread & replying to posts as i go so sorry if i say anything that's already been said..
high seraph wrote:Essentially, what you're suggesting is that there is a Role Thief (something we always suspected) that targeted you on both timelines, which isn't possible
the way i've seen role thieves work in other games is the stealing action is an instant, and then they can use the ability that night - my assumption was that for the purposes of the timesplit, the instant portion wasn't affected by the split, but they then had to choose two different targets for the actual jail.
edit: for the record, i believe the fact that the role thief leaves pm confirmation is new information? therefore i'm inclined to believe that i am the first townsperson that the role thief has struck?
high seraph wrote:@ lulu can you recap all your night actions so far? even the ones that didn't go through/were redirected/idk??? i mean, who did you meant to send your jails at? I mean if we know who you tried to target on N2, then we know that that person is the Butt Book, RIGHT???
um! if my jail was redirected on n2 then it means that the person who acted on me redirected to myself - i don't think who i targeted really influences that.
n0: i jailed sammiya (second jailer: alcasync)
n1: drandahl, i was jailed
n2: ardonye, i was jailed
n3: eleni, jail vanished?
n4: angelstar, jail was stolen
for the record, this means it's impossible for drandahl or ardonye to be the maf jailer, as our jails would have canceled out.
high seraph wrote: LULU wrote:N0 - Sammie
N1 - ?
N2 - Butt Book? -> lulu
N3 - eleni [disappeared]
N4 - Angel [stolen] | MAFIA wrote:N0 - alca
N1 - lulu
N2 - eleni
N3 - Ø
N4 - alca | |
If this is the mafia jailer's action, then this proves that the jailer ISN'T every-other-night and also that ezzelin can't be the mafia jailer. But what happened to the N3 mafia jail then? jesus christ
thank u for your jail summary table btw it's very pretty. it is actually possible that the jailer is every other night if drandahl is a passive reflective or if he had a passive reflection used on him for that night (for the record, this would explain the maf jailer apparently not being in the n1 results aeiou saw, though it doesn't explain why the heck nautilus showed up in the results).
the alternative explanation for the maf jailer not being in aeiou's n1 results would be... hm... as you said, someone who can show up as another role upon investigation. i feel like this is unlikely, not because it's a underpowered role (i imagine the specifics of the role are more like, take on another person's alignment & role for the night), but because: (1) i doubt that it's part of the jailer's role so it must be another mafia member using the ability to cloak the jailer, and, (2) if this is the case and mafia had a disguiser, they would certainly 100% use it on the person who sent in the NK, not the jailer.
i think i need to stare at rollovers for a little longer..
alcasync wrote:
i'm top left! so i think my jail was in last night's rollover.
hungry hungry caterpillar is the post eater and is maf.
alcasync wrote:0x641264F145A4312
this is a single hexadecimal number (denoted by 0x) and converts into the decimal number 450683558799491858. dunno what that means but.
chinomi wrote:Do we think that Angel's death was most likely a town vig kill? I personally think it's a really odd kill for both a town target and a mafia target...
more likely to be a town target tbh! mafia's having trouble killing towns because we have a lot of town clears and apparently a lot of protective roles, i feel like a dayvig would've been used to take out one of the clears.
eleni wrote:lulu, can you elaborate on why you would vote high seraph and why you're suspicious of Tet? the former is pretty much confirmed mortician role which clears him as town in my eyes, so i'm curious to hear why you think he might still be maf.
this is entirely based on aeiou's n1 results. even putting aside the whole jailer fiasco -
- aeiou's results say nautilus acted on me N1 (EDIT: NOT N2).
- high seraph's results say that nautilus can't have acted on me on n1 (EDIT: NOT N2!!!) (or ever) and he has been vouching strongly that nautilus is town.
- since aeiou has flipped town, and high seraph's results directly contradict hers, that leads to the conclusion that high seraph is lying or someone else has tampered with aeiou's night results. up until recently i judged the former more likely, but i'm currently inclined to believe high seraph is town due to his contributions to thread.
t3t i just believed was scummy because in my last experience with town t3t he led the thread a lot harder than he's doing now but there's no way he's mafia while eleni's town. also he made a post while i was writing this post so.
t3tsuya wrote:TIKI THE TROLL - Confirmed Town
sheds a tear... im so glad you two've made up.....
anyway while you're here, do you still believe nautilus was mafia?
ALSO DUCKS DONT HONK
STOP POSTING I NEED TO GO EAT BREAKFAST
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