hiiiii guys I was busy today! I went to the womens rights/anti trump march with tiny and she-ra and then I built a massive ass desk man I am in deskspace heaven right now. I don't even know what to do with it all, I just have so much fucking deskspace. aaa,
anyway,
Five wrote:There are definitely some shenanigans at play here, and I would be willing to bet that at least one of the stuns has an unconventional origin--I know someone mentioned a reactive stunner, so that's a possibility, and I've seen roles that self-stun under certain circumstances so that's possible as well. I don't think anyone mentioned the ratio but it looks pretty skewed? At 3:12 I wouldn't be surprised if mafia had some really powerful tricks up their sleeve, and with that ratio I think the neutral role is rather likely to be harmful, too.
The lack of night kill and the ratio put us in a pretty good spot to no lynch, but I'm not really a fan, and it looks like I'm not the only one. Blaire_ebooks is right that the kill could've been stopped by a doctor rather than by one of the four stuns, but on the other hand I think it's a lot less likely, given that there could have been one doctor target compared to four stuns. Even if it was a doctor role that stopped the night kill, it's pretty likely that at least one of the stun targets is mafia. I think I'd rather pick a vote from them rather than from outside of them, and I'd like to hear more reasoning from people saying we shouldn't vote from them.
this post is pretty much exactly what I was thinking about while doing some back reading. I know I'm saying this as someone who WAS technically stunned? maybe? something sure did happen to me, at least. but, regardless, we have much better leads within the stunned people rather than outside.
I also agree that its likely we have a JOAT, a retaliatory stun, an action duplicator, or something of that nature. there's just so many active things in rollover right now. I also am reminded of a role that Lux gave me where I had a series of possible actions that were not disclosed to me past some small hints. There may be a person who is not fully aware of what their role power does, and it could also be random, if that makes sense?
@tiny, I imagine there are multiple possibilities for protects? im writing as i backread though so potentially someone answered this lmao. I think that protective items + a role power isn't impossible, at least.
I think lucas has a really good point about the items potentially having negative utility for the user, if there are only two. I wonder if the shoelaces are activated when someone is acted upon, rather than passed around like the leftovers. perhaps whoever has the shoelaces has something to do with one of the stuns? maybe it's multiple use and just not kept track of in rollover like leftovers? hmn.
man I totally forgot gerry was playing.
umm in terms of deo, I think I'm willing to vote for him or gerry since both were stunned, and both have been pretty scarce.
I don't really want to no lynch, since we do have a pretty cushy ratio and I'd rather we use the extra time we have to gather information from votes and from spec, rather than let everyone slide through with a no lynch.
high seraph
deo
Aeiou
Mr. Gerbear
are our options from explicit stuns. Deo already has three votes, so I'm not really inclined to cement a bandwagon this far into a phase.
Gerry hasn't really been around so I dunno, the activity vote makes sense, but I also don't feel comfortable seconding an activity vote.
Lucas and Aeiou have both been actively speculating and I can't say I have any off feelings about them at this point in time.
I'm going to think a little more on the options, I think. hmn.