Responding to a few things, now that I've looked at the thread more:
nautilus wrote:The only reason why I'd view [deo] as a high priority target for the mafia is because of his trope name, which mafia could've interpreted as something investigative, but jailers are hard to pin down alignments for anyways.
This is a good point, and that would be a great reason for someone to redirect deo onto himself. That would make me think deo got redirected and eleni was just vanilla stunned. It's probably the most elegant solution to this stun-and-magic-coat predicament that's been proposed. It's not confirmed or conclusive yet, since we'll need some more phases and action interactions, but I don't view it as unreasonable.
Likewise, the point for kiku just being outright stunned makes sense and I consider it highly possible. The main reason I'm proposing the idea of a misdirect happening to her is because of how all of the other stuns look stacked up next to her, but stuns can obviously be intentionally misleading.
Sammiya wrote:I chose to partner up with Cure because she said that she needed a partner to actually be able to use her abilities
Kiyoko wrote:iirc people would be voting Sammie to get info on other players? Was there any reason why people suspected Sammie specifically or is it just due to her relationships with other players?
Mainly, I voted for Sammiya because both she and Cure had been quiet up until that point and Sammiya was, as others said, an economically sound lynch. After they both replied, I'm not sure where I stand. I acknowledge that Sammiya and Cure partnered up after Cure's statement that she could not confess to others, but I also haven't really seen anything super indicative of either being town beyond Rasei stating Sammiya didn't send the NK last night, and Kotakia saying she just trusts Cure because of her "bones" (not sure if that's a hint to her demonic-sounding role, or if it's just a phrase).
The only alternative lynch I see right now is Tiki the Troll for reasons others have highlighted, and the fact that he hasn't posted in response to them at all. But, I'm keeping my vote on Sammiya for now because 1) I've previously stated why I am not going to vote for AliceofOz, and 2) If Tiki
did flip town, I'm basically guaranteeing a lynch on myself when it'd be a vote purely done to probe, much like my vote with Sammiya. Obviously, I'd rather not take that chance, and I truly have no investigative results in favor of AliceofOz other than what I stated before. To that end...
eleni wrote:edit again oh shit idk how i missed Luxaria's post. HMM i'm not sure what to make of this, Alice hasn't been around in the last few hours and i don't think we should expect her to come back before rollover. that being said, we have a little over one hour until rollover so if you're convinced she's town and you have info on her role i think you should just reveal it at this point??
I'm not sure if she'll come back before rollover, so I guess at this point it doesn't hurt to say:
From what I understand, AliceofOz suggested to me that she is a jack-of-all-trades with doctor, jailer, and stunner (that she claims to have used on Kotakia N0) in her selection, as well as some others she hasn't disclosed to me yet. As I suggested, this is really hard to vet because there's the chance she might be mafia and listed off the roles of her mafia teammates, or that she's lying about some, and thus why I wanted to take some phases to weigh her information to me and coordinate role usage with her in a way that would help me confirm her as town. Plus I wanted to see if anyone would contradict any claims to abilities she used.
I realize she was rather frank with this to me which could make it suspect, but she didn't reveal any of this until the message I received last night, which makes me think she was reluctant to share until she developed a read on me? I don't know. I also think that, given enough time, it'd be easy to catch her in a lie or contradiction, and so it's an awkward power to lie about... but an awkward power to vet. And while having protection isn't necessarily outright a town-role, since there could be a maf-doctor, I feel it might be unlikely to see a maf-doc as well as a recruiter since they both increase mafia's longevity. That said, I have no way of knowing how much kill power town has, so take that with a grain of salt.
Anyway, that's all I have. My relationship effect has no bearing on determining the veracity of these claims. Thus, the best I can say is, "This is a powerful role I don't want us to lose", but it takes time to figure out if she's actually telling the truth.