[Snowball Bash Mafia] [Mafia Wins]

The standoff has ended.

Unvote: High Seraph

@Cure Lmao, I wouldn't expect you to say otherwise if you were mafia tho. By mislynching today, the ratio drops to 3:4, which will be made even after the night phase, bringing it to a dangerous 3:3 figure. What I'm trying to say is that the mafia has the upper hand atm, and now is a good time to pull a gambit like fakeclaiming cop to get Tiki (of all people) lynched.

Idk. I haven't been having strong maf readings from your posts, tbh. If you think Tiki is mafia, fine, but what do you think of the other players? Would you care to indulge me for a few minutes and tell me who else do you think is mafia along with Tiki and why?? You say I'm just gonna have to trust you, but I think this is a much more reliable way to build that trust.

Ninjad a few times, I'm just gonna post this for now

@Rasei Kiyoko was already forthcoming about her role from the get go, so I don't understand why you thought it would be better to wait until she was dead to disclose that information. Also I'm glad you asked "who killed Kiyoko" because that is bugging me a lot. She said she could protect herself from all night actions X times, and she said she'd be doing that every phase because she's a popular nk target. Now, its entirely possible that she did not hide inside on n1 altho I think its unlikely she would do that unless her role was an "every other night" thing, which she didn't say it was (and that's understandable). Now I'm gonna talk about snow.

First of all, let me tell y'all that getting stunned by the mafia does not damage your snowfort. The fact that Rasei supposedly wrote abt Kiyo probably didn't cause any damage to Kiyo's snowfort either. So, unless I'm missing something, Kiyo got 1 snow on n0, making her snowfort stand with 3 snow. After d1, Kiyo's fort had 4 snow, enough to survive a nk. Add to that, Rasei's claim that Kiyo could get extra snow during the night (which btw doesn't really match her role flavor -- how can she get more snow if she's inside???), which would normally make Kiyo all the more unkillable.

How the hell did Kiyo die???

One explanation I can think of is that roles that can deduce the amount of snow on a snowfort acted on her.

I think we should discuss this. But my batteries are running at 5% so I'm gonna let you guys start without me.

Rasei wrote:I want more information from Cure, Tiki, Ninfia, Mr. Alice, and Lucas. I want to know a) who would you rate as the most likely mafia members and b) who killed Kiyoko

A. Honestly, still drandahl. Nothing he has said or done has made him feel less Mafia to me. Even with Sammiya involved now, that just makes me strongly wonder if she's mafia with him too. Obviously I could be slightly biased because of the thing I mentioned before with how he tended to focus on me a little more the last two times he was mafia while I was town, and I'm willing to admit that. But that still doesn't change how things are looking to me right now, and I'm not sure anything less than giving much more info about his role would convince me otherwise. I won't push it if no one else is feeling this way, but for future reason, if I vote him again in the future, this is why, so please don't ask me again ok it's pretty much always GOING TO BE THIS AND IF YOU WANT ME TO EXPAND ON ANYTHING I WILL NEED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I WILL JUST FLAT OUT TELL YOU TO CHECK THIS POST.

B. Is this question asking who I think killed Kiyoko, or asking for a general 'who killed kiyoko'? I think it's the former. And I don't know. Besides not-Lucas. Unless he has a special stun-bypassing ability. I don't know, man. I just. I just don't know.

OK after reading lucas' above post, i was reminded of a thing

and that is that i don't super understand rasei's claims about kiyo's role so can someone who has more time and organization than me like, idk, summarize that whole....thing? b/c i am very @ A @ both in-game and irl rn

I don't know what to think about rasei right now, tbh. I'd put her pretty high on my suspicion list. especially since she, for no reason at all, said that if there was a nk she'd vote me. wtf?? That's so randomly arbitrary.

Sammie seems to believe drandahl for now, but Rasei also advocated for drandahl so?? 

I also don't know what to think about YOU lucas-chan >:OOO or the things kiyo said about ninfia, but ninfia is also willing to give me the benefit of the doubt re: tiki and I kind of don't think a mafia teammate would immediately hop on my vote so early in the phase

I haven't really thought ahead beyond my LYNCH TIKI campaign. I can't see myself living beyond this day phase (and also I do not request protection, it'd be a waste at this point). 

also i am out for the night and might not be able to make an update later

OH BLAIRE IS ALSO PLAYING THIS GAME IDK ABOUT BLAIRE EITHER


the point is tiki is maf


also I'm not to worried about lucas atm since he keeps getting stunned.

I'M FIXATED ON STEP ONE OF MY PLAN RIGHT NOW. which is eliminate confirmed mafia member tiki

WHY ARE PEOPLE FORGETTING ABOUT ME SHOULD I SCREAM ABOUT SOME MORE I'M SORRY THIS IS SOME REAL BLACK MAGIC BULLSH❆T

i'm not too worried about blaire tbh. 


right now I'd tentatively say tiki, rasei, and drandahl are the highest on my suspish list with lucas and sammie at the bottom of it. everyone else (ninfia and blaire? is anyone else playing i forget help me)in the middle. you can put myself in this middle list if you want to but I am town and very very very much positive that tiki is maf

Blaire, Rasei claimed to be a role cop.

She said Kiyo can protect herself from all night actions (which is an obvious piece of information we all already had) and that she can get the extra snow for her fort during night phases (which doesn't really fit with how Kiyo described her role tbh, and I feel like it's made up to make it seem like Rasei has legit information).

She also claimed to investigate dran, who can "make friends".... whatever that means, and also can steal other ppl's snow (both are pieces of information we already had too. Rasei's timing is either really bad or she's lying).

ok thank you lucas

smooshes ur cheeks

@Raie, thanks for your response..... I'm going to unvote, vote: Tiki, but I'm still not very certain about this, and depending on how Rasei responds when she gets back I might change my vote again.

high seraph wrote:@Raie, thanks for your response..... I'm going to unvote, vote: Tiki, but I'm still not very certain about this, and depending on how Rasei responds when she gets back I might change my vote again.

Meanie.

Also if you guys have noticed tiki has not realy denied that he's mafia or tried to refute my claim at all. Which he has done in the past when he's town and being tunneled.