What's the point of any of this? [Game End]

A pure vanilla game would be the best time to RNG. I mean, I haven't been around enough to confirm this to be true, but I remember in Ninfia's all vanilla game, it was said alot that we needed to analyze NK targets, that that is how to crack the mafia. But if they make the NK targets truly random, you are destroying our prime channel for information. We might find patterns still, but it would be apophenia.

However, that is no reason not to analyze the targets, because if we stopped analyzing the targets, then the mafia could shift to picking targets.

Anyway. I'll vote for anyone who has been mafia when Ezzelin was killed early in another game.

My top three picks are (alphabetically) Blair High Lucas and Tiki, since all of them were in a mafia with Ezz killed ealry, and two of them (High Lucas, tiki) were in two mafias when Ezz was lynched early (noting that Tiki died early in one of those games), and all three have been pretty quiet so far this game. I know that its not nice to lynch inactive players, and I know that mafia also use that to hide, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The reason Blaire makes the top three list is because if it is a random strategy, then I am inclined to think Tiki or Blaire are behind it. Maybe I am misjudging Blaire, though, honestly, they are such a wild card to me.

Other people... in alphabetical order, Cure, Five, Mitsu, Ninfia are all strong spec people that I would suspect mafia would be hiding in if they were trying to mask their presence by sniping non-strong spec people. Of these, Five and Ninfia are the ones who have been quiet-ish this game, but I think they both tend to start games kinda quiet? Is that normal town behavior for them, could someone whose played more with them confirm, please?

I don't like the way Dran has kinda sunk outta sight, but to be fair its dran's nature to appear scummy and also kinda did too, so I don't want to glass house things.


I'm not doing the exclamation point thing.

† ☾u♪e † wrote:

Entelechy wrote:A pure vanilla game would be the best time to RNG.

Maybe, but an even better strategy with a pure vanilla game is to take out the people with the strongest instincts, logic/reasoning skills, and most active contributions to the thread! In a vanilla game everyone's value is based on their in-thread activity!! You want to take out the strongest speculators!!! Sure, you can just RNG your targets, but you'd only do that if your team IS active speculators or wants town to only focus on the active speculators!!!! Of course, mafia could have just decided to employ this strategy because I pointed it out yesterday and made a list of people to watch out for if it started happening!!!!! :V

For what it's worth, I think it's likely mafia definitely has a couple very strong players in their ranks!!!!!!! Also, Five is currently at the top of my suspect list (SORRY NICKELBACK) followed by Ninfia!!!!!!!!

Also, um... in ninfia's all vanilla game we said we COULDN"T analyze the NK targets because none of them were direct NK targets!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought we also said we needed to try to figure out who the initial NK targets were because that's what we would gain a lot of information from? And that's how a previous vanilla game had been cracked?

As someone who has only played one game with Five before, could you please help me understand why they made the top of your list? I am not arguing against your choice, I don't know them as well as you, and would like to understand what you are seeing.

If I were mafia (and I'm not mafia), I would RNG it. As you said, in a vanilla game NKs are the only true information you get, so if you do RNG it, then the town would get literally zero information from nights (still studying voting patterns, etc). So no matter how strong of spec players lived, they would be acting off static, not actual data. But that's just me and my thinking, and I know lots of people on this forum think differently than I do.

But I think we would still need to try to analyze the NK targets, because as I said, if we give up on doing so, it gives the mafia free license to pick off whoever they want.

And beyond that, two points of data is not nearly enough to take a guess at whether it is random or not. I am also going to wait a bit later in the phase, though, to vote, because I would really like to hear from Tiki, Blaire, Lucas, and... oh, actually, only those three.

I gotta admit the past few games have gotten me super suspicious of people who don't post much, so... please, speak up.

EDIT: Oh! And Jeanne11! So quite I forgot she was playing. I don't want to target a new player, because new player, but please do offer some speculation.

† ☾u♪e † wrote:So you only want to hear from those three people out of the 13 other people playing? ... Well... o k ay.

Well, no, but those are the people who I feel really should raise their voice this turn. Tiki has played a lot of hang man, but I want to see more spec. I can't get past page one of their recent posts because of so much hangman and a website glitch.

High Lucas I forgot they had made a fair sized spec post on Wednesday, I though they hadn't' done any spec. I think I forgot it because of the nicknames... god Wednesday was rough for us in that regard.

Blair also has only made light contributions to spec, and voted No Vote (actually, Lucas did too, now that I check), which doesn't seem like a good choice in an all vanilla game (unless I am missing something).

And Jeanne hasn't posted any spec yet.

So, yes, of course, I want to hear from everyone, but those four in particular.

† ☾u♪e † wrote:Both Lucas and Blaire have had real life issues that caused their low activity during the last phase, which they both said in their posts.

I either missed that or had not retained that information (probably missed it, because I think it would have retained it). Cool. Good to know. Thank you.