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Luxaria wrote:
Fia, do you have any explanation for why Tet is saying you targeted ezz, Duck, and Cure last night? Or what led to you choosing Cure and ezz? You didn't target Duck at all? Not even for non-abilities?

I haven't even mentioned thinking about targetting duck to Kiyoko, so I really have no idea why Tet would get information saying I've targeted duck unless there is a tertiary part of the bus that wasn't explained to me in the ability pm. I don't... particularly suspect tet but either he's lying about something or he got a result that was tampered with.

as for choosing ezz and Cure-- I figured something interesting would happen? tbh, I hate buses because I can never hammer out exactly how they'll work in my head without a lot of work so I primarily yolo'd it.

I also figured that ezz would probably get a quirk and if cure ended up getting stunned or roleblocked again, she'd get something to work with. That and... I felt a little guilty about stunning her.

as for your question about my phrasing, I said "Cure and ezz" in my pm, exactly.

@ace: the unused ability is from a quirk. I considered using it but ultimately decided to save it because it has a randomness factor and I wasn't sure that it would be all that useful last night phase. (and considering who I thought about using it on, I was right). I didn't use it partially because I wanted to see what happened last night phase before using it and since it wasn't going to expire I figured why not. It also works out since I didn't get a typing quirk today.

I'm at work so I can't really put together more thoughts than this but I'll keep up with the thread and answer any questions directed at me when I can, but I'll probably vote sometime around 7:30 pm EST my time? just as a heads up.

.... sleepy

Aeiou wrote:So I asked if it spreads/infects players like infecting an extra person and the answer was no

What was the exact wording?

This is probably a wild goose chase, but what I find interesting is that Tet has zalgo this phase, apparently. If it did not spread or infect, that would mean the person that gives zalgo targeted me again, which... might be possible? I don't know. I guess I can see that being the case if you trust someone, since I nearly did the same with my quirk.

But the reason I asked about the ordering is that when I submitted my bus, I put, "Tetsuya and Tiki", and then Tiki ended up with it on top of Ninfia--and I believe Ninfia received the quirk from the actual source that night. Ninfia also said she targeted "Cure and ezz", which would explain Cure not having it. This is... still very theoretical/unlikely, and we're missing a zalgo this phase. I don't know.

For the record, re: duplicated role abilities, Lucas said this in response to something Tiki said:

Lucas wrote: I am partly responsible for this too. But only partly. I got a lot of quirks ok. For what is worth, I'm willing to believe that double quirks are pro-town?? I think mafia could abuse this kind of action and, tbh, why would mafia give me that quirk when they could abuse it? But yeah, I know what happened in one pair of quirks, but idk how the other pair happened. I mean, I do have some theories?? And I think it's HIGHLY possible that someone did the same quirk as me during the last day phase and I didn't notice it. If that happened (I'll check later), it will all make sense. To me.

I still want Tet to clarify if he had a quote related to being America at all. I also don't like this weird discrepancy between Tet and Ninfia's statements, as well as Cure apparently getting her quirk sent back to her from Duck. That would mean...

Ninfia targeted Cure and ezz with a bus.
Tet followed Ninfia and saw her target ezz and Duck with a bus, and then targeted Cure separately.
Cure tried to send a quirk to Duck, but it got flipped back to Cure.

ezz did not have redirection of her own on D2/N2, I am 90% sure of this. I also find Fia bussing Cure/ezz to be a little out of the ordinary of what I'd expect her to do, but... I can see it making sense... particularly if someone I don't want to be mafia is actually mafia along with her. Hmmm.

... Actually. I do have an explanation for Cure redirecting to herself.

Rasei wrote:Because if Lux is right, then someone took her abilities she had last night even through she was jailed. I have information that the meme I Put on My Robe and My Wizard Hat is in play. So...
...
I got a pm back from Kiyoko, and someone could have stolen Lux's powers with an ability even through she was jailed.

I had a redirect I never got to use that affected abilities and quirks. It might have allowed someone to redirect from one target back to themself. Which would explain Ninfia visiting Cure separately if she had the redirect and used it on Cure*. This is a lot of if's and relies on the neutral being honest, but...

...

Ninfia, are you mafia?

* Edit: But why would you redirect Cure onto herself... What's the actual gain of that? Hmmm. Is that... even a thing the mafia would do?

Also, wait, I think Tet said he tried to visit Katagi and he ended up visiting someone else?

WHAT IS GOING ON.

I'm really not, and my ability is of great use to the town. I'm... kind of hesitant to say more but I have targeted Lux and Tet with my ability so far and........ fuckin' wiffed by saving a pm to drafts instead of sending it to a third person last night. Tet's usage of my ability has apparently been successful, provided there are not Shenanigans.

Hmmm. I did wonder if I received one of yours on D1/N1. If you're what I think you are, that's interesting. You mean you sent a quirk to both of us, correct? Very interesting, actually. Which means I know 3 of the 4 people who sent me one, and I have a guess or two on the last one.

Actually, wait. Going back to what Rasei said, if mafia did steal my abilities, there would be a bus on top of a redirect available to them. If this is all true...

...

Wait, also. They would have a quirk-block, when the only one that showed up last night was from a player that satisfied the quirk on D2.

I wonder if there's a setup of... three buses and a redirect that adequately explains:

Ninfia targeted Cure and ezz with a bus.
Tet followed Ninfia and saw her target ezz and Duck with a bus, and then targeted Cure separately.
Cure tried to send a quirk to Duck, but it got flipped back to Cure.
Tet failing to visit Katagi properly (if this is what he said).

Wait, it still doesn't explain how Tet saw Ninfia visiting three people last night if she says she only visited two--especially if she didn't even send in her gifted-quirk onto a player, if I'm reading her correctly.

I AM TOO. DROWSY FOR THIS SHIT.

Edit: Wait, if Katagi was Tet's target, and she was blocked, she would be ineligible for quirks at all last night. But Tet said he merely tried to target her and then visited someone else instead. So how can Katagi directly receive one action (the block, presumably, since the person sending it hasn't voiced any concerns over it being redirected iirc), but then have someone else acting on her (Tet trying to visit her in some capacity) get redirected elsewhere.

Also I guess Tet wasn't clear on if he used an action on Katagi or tried to quirk her, so...

I NEED. ANSWERS.

In case Lux is confused with these quirks, I did say I targeted Katagi with the follow action, which was successful. Again, I saw her do only one thing, act on Tet, which means she must have targeted Lux with her quirk.

I think I agree with your list. I don't have an opinion on Vowels, but I do think Tiki is 95% town.

With the exception of an unreasonably confusing mafia plan of actions, I believe at least one of Tet or Ninfia is town, and I'm betting more on Tet. Both could be town, though, but it'd require a... really exhaustive explanation for the discrepancies we're seeing. The main thing throwing me off is what Ninfia is claiming to have as her meme/quirk.

Also, re: conspiracy theory related... It's weird. It reads as pro-town, but when I got the ability it felt like it could be inaccurate since... conspiracy theory and all. Couple that with getting zalgo, of all things, on top of getting an... unusually designed quirk, and the last one blocking quirks/abilities... you can see why on N1 I was like "These all feel so questionable".

For the record, my result on Ace returned that the FBI was working with the illuminati to cover up evidence...

Thus why I repeatedly asked:

Luxaria wrote:Whichever player sent me the quirk used in the second long post that I did, can you share any vague information regarding the actual ability I got from doing it? I can read between the lines no matter what you say. Feel free to stay silent if you don't want to out yourself or your quirk.

Because the way the flavor is written, I think I had no action to be jailed out of; the result should have happened. Tet can probably back me up on this. And yet, my result returned... gestures above.

Edit: @ Tiki

What I meant about Katagi is:

Tetsuya wrote:Katagi should have been visited last night, it's true. Sorry baby but it was from me, I should have visited you.

I hit up someone else in the house last night. It's up to them if that wants to come to light.

Which suggests another redirect.**

But you also followed her, apparently, and that went through? So between that, her receiving a blocking action last night, and Tetsuya trying to visit her and failing...

WHAT.

IS.

HAPPENING.

Tiki, I forget if you said otherwise. Did you get any quirks last night?

** Edit: Unless I misread what Tet was trying to say.

YO

YO

WHAT DO YA KNOW

IT'S AN EARLY MORNING POST BY YOUR FAVORITE BRO

Luxaria wrote:Tet, really quickly, can you answer a few things?

Was there a quirk used on you that was America related? Or was that just embellishment?

Last night you tried to give your quirk to Katagi but were redirected to someone else? Right?

There's also something that feels off about the 85% ability, but... I'll get to that later, I think.

MY AMERICA QUIRK, IT'S PLAIN TO SEE

IS TET BEING TET. THAT'S ME BEING ME.

IT HASN'T HAPPENED AGAIN, IT'S NOT A REAL QUIRK.

IT WAS ME HAVING FUN AND DOING SOME WORK.

YEAH

YEAH

NOW LUX, I GOTTA LET YOU KNOW. I WOULDN'T KNOW IF MY TARGET WAS REDIRECTED, FO SHO.

THERE'S NO SIGN OUT THERE THAT MY QUIRK'S ALIVE.

I NEED PARTICIPATION FOR MY ABILITY TO THRIVE.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THE 85%

IS JUST A SMALL AMOUNT OF MY ABILITY'S CONTENT.

IT GOES DOWN 10% WITH EVERY USE

UNTIL IT FINALLY RUNS OUT OF JUICE.

WHAT

UH

YEAH

Luxaria wrote:Edit: Wait, if Katagi was Tet's target, and she was blocked, she would be ineligible for quirks at all last night. But Tet said he merely tried to target her and then visited someone else instead. So how can Katagi directly receive one action (the block, presumably, since the person sending it hasn't voiced any concerns over it being redirected iirc), but then have someone else acting on her (Tet trying to visit her in some capacity) get redirected elsewhere.

Also I guess Tet wasn't clear on if he used an action on Katagi or tried to quirk her, so...

I NEED. ANSWERS.

KATAGI WAS MY TARGET, I PUT IN THE WORK

TO GIVE HER A BIG HEAPING HELPING OF MY STUPID QUIRK

BUT AS I SAID BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT ONCE MORE

THE DUPLICATION QUIRK GAVE ME ONE MORE USE OUTTA THE DOOR

OH YEAH

Ace wrote:@Aeiou; okay hmmm at least that kind of confirms that there are role duplication roles in play, though I think most of us already assume that anyway

post incoming

THIS WAS ESTABLISHED BEFORE

WERE YOU JUST SLEEPIN ALL OUT ON THE FLOOR?

THERE IS A ROLE THAT CAUSES, NO LIE

YOUR QUIRK TO DOUBLE. THAT'S SUPA FLY.

...

does

no one say that anymo-

OH YEAH

SO HERE'S MY THOUGHTS ALL UP IN THIS BITCH

TO HOW WE SHOULD VOTE AND HOW WE SHOULD LYNCH

I AIN'T FRONTIN AND ALL OF MY CLAIMS THIS SESSION

CAN EASILY BE PROVED AS TRUE WITH A JUST A QUESTION

ASK AWAY, DON'T HAVE TO BE TODAY

IF THE INFO I GAVE WAS TRUE OR CRAY

NOW THE WAY I SEE THIS GOES ONE OF TWO WAYS

NELLA LIVES OR NELLA DIES THIS PHASE.



IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SHE IS TOWN

AND SOMEONE ON MAF IS SWITCHING SHIT AROUND

THERE'S VERY CLEARLY SOMETHING WE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND

WE MIGHT BE PLAYING RIGHT INTO SOMEBODY'S HANDS.

WE DON'T HAVE MUCH INFO, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST

I WOULDN'T CONDEMN ANYONE LYNCHING BASED ON EDUCATED GUESS



IT'S A MATTER OF FAITH, NOT A MATTER OF TRUST

SO WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK

DISCUSS?

I understand that things are not adding up when it comes to me, but I would like to point out that I've done my best to be clear and forthcoming about everything I've said. I'm once again happy to answer questions and will further claim if I have to even if that ends up getting me killed in the next night phase. :( I honestly can't explain why tet would see me acting on someone when I haven't. As I said, I think that either there is something flawed about the results, tet is lying, or another ability is in play.

as for my stun on you cure: are you really that surprised? you and I both know I'm well aware of how dangerous you are as a maf player. As a town player, why wouldn't I try to mitigate the risk of you running rampant? If I were maf, why would I bother claiming a stun on you that could easily be cc'd or disputed rather than just keeping silent?

I've told you guys nearly everything I have and I'm not sure what more I can say, but I'll continue to answer any questions that people ask me.

I'll look more closely at past phases once I get home, but I think Katagi is the person I'm most likely to vote for at this point. I want to believe tet despite him really putting me in a bad position but I have some thoughts, so I'm not going to elaborate further on that till I have more time.

@Lux: I think that sort of a message could appear if the person was neutral or you were stunned out of the ability, I bet. I'm sure that Tet's results probably got him downvoted on reddit or something.

Luxaria wrote:Also, re: conspiracy theory related... It's weird. It reads as pro-town, but when I got the ability it felt like it could be inaccurate since... conspiracy theory and all. Couple that with getting zalgo, of all things, on top of getting an... unusually designed quirk, and the last one blocking quirks/abilities... you can see why on N1 I was like "These all feel so questionable".

For the record, my result on Ace returned that the FBI was working with the illuminati to cover up evidence...

Thus why I repeatedly asked:

Luxaria wrote:Whichever player sent me the quirk used in the second long post that I did, can you share any vague information regarding the actual ability I got from doing it? I can read between the lines no matter what you say. Feel free to stay silent if you don't want to out yourself or your quirk.

HEY

HO

WHAT DO YA KNOW

A FOLLOW UP RAP FROM YOUR BRO

LUX DON'T YOU THINK THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT

THE FACT YOU SAID NOTHING IS PRETTY....ABHORRENT?

THE RESULTS OF MY FINDINGS WERE NOT VAGUE IN THE LEAST.

IT SAID YOU WERE TOWN. AND ALSO A BEAST.

THE FACT YOU GOT EVIDENCE SO CLEAR, MEANS AND ALTERNATE DECISION IS LIKELY NEAR.

ZALGO PROBABLY DOESN'T INFECT, IT'S JUST A NORMAL QUIRK.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT GOT DUPLICATED AND THEN WENT TO WORK.

YOU'RE OVERTHINKING EVERYTHING, IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE.

IF YOU KEEP DOING IT THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE A HIKE.

FLAT OUT FULL STOP I AIN'T KIDDING TO SAVE FACE

I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE LYNCHING NELLA OR ACE.

YEAH

YEAH

I DIDN'T SUSPECT HER, BUT LUX'S RESULTS ARE PRETTY PLAIN

THAT IT SEEMS LIKE ACE WAS READY TO BRING THE PAIN.

NELLA SEEMS RESPONSIBLE FOR SOMETHING LAST NIGHT

BUT I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION YET TO BRING THIS ALL TO LIGHT.

UH

OH YEAH

LIKE I SAID BEFORE,

IF THERE'S ANY HATERS STILL OUT THERE ON THE FLOOR

THEN IT MIGHT BE A GOOD SAFE IDEA

TO VERIFY WHAT I SAID WITH THAT QUESTION ROLE...OH YEAH?