crossroads ✕ town win

No, I actually wonder about Gerry because Ace claimed earlier that he's been essentially jailing folks, and if Gerry jailed Rasei it would show up in Kiyoko's ~protection report~ on N2, if Ace's jails are showing up in the ~protection reports~ also.

So Gerry's definitely not a jailer, but... does things? I guess? Removes kinks from people's backs?

Yeah, that's another thing. I'm... pretty confident that lynching Gerry tomorrow will yield another mafia member.

Sup, I just caught up. I kind of agree that ezz/Lux are not maf together, but I'm actually going to disagree with you on which one is maf.

I think ezz FoSing Lux like that would be really stupid if ezz was maf redirector and Lux was town, because if Lux was town, ezz would know that Lux's info is legit, and therefore any "you couldn't have acted" argument would immediately fall apart. If ezz were maf and Lux is town, I feel like ezz would probe more to see if such an argument could be made before throwing herself into the spotlight like that. I think the main argument for ezz being maf is that her redirect seems like a duplicate of Raie's, but I actually think straight up that a bus is more useful for mafia. I remember in Gakuen S1 when we were discussing compensation for maf dropping out, we specifically requested we get a bus rather than a redirect. A bus on maf might make up for two single-target redirects on town. Which makes angel slightly more maf in my eyes, though angel has been straightforward about information, so.

Actually, angel, who did you target N2? Likewise, did ezz claim who she targeted?



While I'm here, I know people are possibly going to give me shit for FoSing someone who's got irl shit going on, and I'm probably gonna look like a jerkass for making this analysis, but. We have evidence that mafia is at least a little scattered or doesn't have that kind of magnificent bastard-type leader on their team. Additionally, based on the half-hearted defense for Duck in-thread, and the way Duck just up and rolled over, I think it's likely that mafia's morale is fucking low at this point, and I seriously don't blame them. They had the numbers advantage, and by this point in the game it's been three NKs blocked, one member lynched, one member outed and about to be lynched, and given that there aren't any town dead yet, a bunch of people who are essentially clear town, and it's not looking good for their future ability to have NKs hit their targets. Maf is probably not going to participate in thread to their full capacity, just due to sheer fatigue.

So straight up, I think Lux is maf. I think Gerry is maf. I'm ambivalent about other members but I think it might be likely that angel is maf though I'm not sold on that one. As for the last one, I guess I'm between Tiki and Ninfia by process of elimination, but something Ninfia said on D2 with the "My ability went pear-shaped but I think I found a miller wait nevermind" makes me think Ninfia is town, because either that's info you want to keep to maf, or it's something you want to capitalize on for confusion in-thread, and after Ninfia got it all cleared up she just kind of dropped that topic and went "nm misunderstood I got stunned is all"

So yeah. tl;dr, Lux, Gerry, angel, Tiki for remaining maf.

Do note that Duck heavily fosed Lux more than anyone else in this post. While it's very possible that Lux is mafia, I think it equally likely that ezz and Duck are mafia together.


at the very least gerry is definitely mafia, probably tiki too. so we should take care of them first and then figure out who the last two are.

Duck FoS's teammates all the time though as maf.

But yeah I agree that Gerry and Tiki can come first, and we can throw our shitton of investigations at ezz and Lux.

Tiki, when it comes to your ability: will actions still work on you if they're reflected (so idk if Raie tried to target you and redirect your Drain action, would it still go through?)

If you've answered this at some point, please let me know

hi senpai

Cure wrote::T Well, I mean I don't have investigative power, and I don't have a ton of info either. I don't even know if my abilities go through unless my targets out that they were stunned or got weird results.

Yeah, but you always talk whether you have anything good to say or not. XD
See: Meme Mafia.

Actually... :V Lux tends to give up when things are not going well, especially as mafia, so Lux being mafia is probable. tbh, she should be in the maf category with the others on my list. sec.

Gerry
Tiki
Angel
Luxaria
Ezzelin
Ninfia

^ all the mafia are in here. 85% sure.


Tiki, stop talking about how great you did in meme mafia already. You squeaked by because Lux "cleared" you in thread and was adamant about your alignment being town.

Also, I think at some point both Tiki and angel said they'd ask alca what happened if Tiki returned a bus. Did either of them ever get back to thread?

Specifically, I want to hear angel answer this question first. Tiki, if you have an answer, don't answer yet, and we'll see if the answers line up. I have Something I Need To Verify.

nautilus wrote:Tiki, when it comes to your ability: will actions still work on you if they're reflected (so idk if Raie tried to target you and redirect your Drain action, would it still go through?)

If you've answered this at some point, please let me know

hi senpai

It doubles. So, say, if someone protects me, and they're first in the queue, I get a protect, and they get a protect.
It doesn't work for everything, though. Like, again, if I get hit with a kill power, only I take that, heh. I even checked if this means stuff like guns, and yep. I can't create double guns.

Edit: Oh, the bud thing, though I mentioned, sorry.
I think, if I'm hit with a bus, bus actions targeted toward me go to the other target of the bus (since, technically, that targeted bus action happened before the reflected one). Meanwhile, if the other bus target is hit, it'll go to, say, Angel. And if Angel is hit, it goes to the person she had coupled me into a bus with.

Actually, I'll reword my question for Tiki so it doesn't answer Kiyoko's prematurely with a different example:

If Lucas acted on you, would Lucas gain any sort of meaningful information on you or would he receive information on himself?

edit: oops i was ninja'd by his own answer HMMMM

STARES AT TIKI.


edit: also lux could easily have been the person proof checking duck's post since she's been awake/semi-around all night.

Doesn't matter, doesn't mess anything up for me. My question is specifically about a bus.

Sorry, I missed that (the forum is bad sometimes about informing me if posts came while I was typing). I added it in an edit.

:/

But I AM a jailer. If it didn't show up on the protect list then honestly what the hell is the point of me using my action if nobody can freaking clear me MY ACTION LITERALLY SAYS IT PROTECTS FROM KILLS IT'S LITERALLY. THERE.

ugh see I literally LITERALLY can't do ANYTHING in any game without someone being like "oh he's definitely mafia"

Goddamn just lynch me already fuck