Gakuen Mafia EP04-EP08 [ENG SUB]

n★util★s wrote:
As for Kiku, Tet, and Kotakia:

Explain. What happen

Do I need to don the midnight mask and ominously post "Come" in this game.

To elaborate on the information I just stated, the "confession" message briefly mentioned something about protection (although I'm not certain if that was a hint at the role effect or just rp flavor) and inviting other people into it (if I was currently in a relationship). As far as timing goes the confession was sent during the last day phase (12am EST). I accepted the confession quite a bit later (at 3pm EST), but still during the day phase. I didn't exchange any further messages with t3t beyond accepting the confession.

eleni wrote:umm assuming you're referring to Kiyoko's post, she said nothing about a three-way alliance between them. quote below

Kiyoko directly indicated those three names and their relation to one another, thus how I addressed it, but neither her nor I stated that kiku was scummy unless she personally snuck her vote in--which we both said makes no sense since it'd be so obvious. Thus, I didn't pursue that line of thought and stated that kiku had been manipulated and tried to reason out how this would impact the Alice v Tiki situation.

And I think it's "dumb" because... let's say Tiki and Alice are both mafia. They tie for Tiki to get his lynchproof so they can then get another use out of Alice's jack-of-all-trades, as others pointed out. What does this do for them? Now we have Tiki and Alice outed as mafia, when all Tiki had to do prior to this was just clear up his name by actually replying to people about his stake in the game and his relationship to Jaiser, since he was mostly voted due to those two reasons in conjunction with his relative silence.

That said, if they expected Tiki to just go up in flames anyway, and/or Alice is actually the counts-as-two mafia in addition to JOAT, then that might skew things in favor of sacrificing him to throw up another night phase of Alice using her role. That said, if Alice (or even Tiki, for that matter) are the 2-for-1, then that means mafia just gave up close to half of their numbers just to get one more use out of Alice. That seems... idk. Maybe it's a clever ploy to make Tiki seem more town by having us deduce all of this. Maybe they're both mafia. Maybe they're both town. Maybe this game is just ridiculous.

Anyway, none of this sits easy with me. I, personally, did not buy into the D2 argument against Alice, but the exchange at rollover is concerning. I also think she's going to be lynched regardless at this point, so I have nothing to say other than that I relayed information and my thoughts on all of this as necessary. If she flips mafia, then that is why I said earlier in the game I have a bad track record reading her alignment and that I do not feel comfortable making claims as to whether or not she's town until I have conclusive proof. Ultimately, I have no way of knowing if anything she's told me is true, just that I'd hate for us to lose a JOAT with defensive tendencies if we're wrong.

And how amusing would it be if kiku was forced to follow T3t's vote and he's town/neutral, Tiki and Alice are both town and telling the truth, and mafia played all of us. What a game this would be.

Anyway, I won't vote for AliceofOz solely out of principle, and she is my waifu and I'm holding out hope. I would vote for Tiki just to give him the second-highest vote of the phase so we can test his role claim, but I think I'd rather leave that up to someone else to decide given the focus on both me and Alice as a pairing.

Vote: No Vote

Tiki The Troll wrote:

1. If anyone knows how bad self-voting looks, it's me. Unless I were really up against a wall, do you think I'd do that? And, in theory, if I were Mafia...what do I really have to gain from saving a single Mafia member this early in the game by doing something so "scummy?"
   
2. There was the use of my lynchproof, which, whether you believe it's permanent or not, I was forced to expose to the masses (and I quickly and willingly complied to that). There was also the reveal of vote tampering. Again...what could possibly be gained so early, in a game this big, by the Mafia showing its hand so openly?
   
3. Let's say your answer to all that is, "Maybe it's because Alice is now the one that counts for two, she could have Jaiser's abiities!" Okay. So then I, the theoretical Mafia, expose myself, draw all this attention, and we toss on a tampered vote t boot. Woo. Congratulations. We've not only made Alice look even more suspicious, thus still likely to get vig killed or lynched, but myself as well, and shown we can tamper votes. GJ, team...
   

If you and Alice are both Mafia, she might have a much more valuable ability than yours. Also, putting yourself on the line like that would have protected both of you rather than letting both of you die.

I just flew out on the Jeticopter and was caught in a whirlwind as the earth rotated below me faster than was reasonably possible. I saw houses shoot into space. I feel the topography of the planet has irreversibly changed. Lakes emptied and mountains crumbled. I flew back as soon as I realized it was daytime again at the school.

So thanks for that, whoever was responsible. Really. Thank you. From everyone on earth. Not like we enjoyed having 4 seasons. That's fine. I'm sure we can manage. Asshole.

This anger needs to go somewhere so.

Kiyoko wrote:Tiki you are looking the scummiest out of every single person in this thread right now for your last minute vote. You don't get to keep your role hidden because if you don't give us a good explanation someone is going to shoot you in the face.

Give me the gun, I'll do it myself.

Luxaria wrote:
Or...

what the hell even is this role this makes no sense to me.

That's because there's a high likelihood Tiki is lying. Tiki has lied about every single role he has ever been given regardless of alignment. This is not an exaggeration. I'm not even strictly willing to believe he's lynchproof forever. And it's not like he's explaining anything easy to believe. He'll only die if he's second in votes on a Tuesday if it's autumn, which we will never have again now. I'm not even sure if we have Tuesdays anymore, astrologically speaking.

Which is great. It's not like anybody enjoyed that extra day of trading.

Basically I don't believe a word this cockroach says and I feel like it would be better for everyone if someone shot him.

kiku wrote: I was invited into a relationship by T3t last night and accepted. I didn't get any messages stating that I couldn't say anything about the relationship and honestly the way the situation is going I REALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT COULD'VE HAPPENED

There is nothing wrong with saying whatever you want about our relationship. I want everyone to know who is with me. Though I will respect it if somebody wants to keep their affairs with me a blackmailable secret.

This time however I can proudly say Kiku was recruited to fill the lack of cosplaying gender neutral characters in the ranks. This is fact. Kotakia is taking a vacation, she can do whatever she wants, it's not my problem who she's with. I dont

I don't care.

I uh.
Onto other matters.

Luxaria wrote:@ T3tsuya:

Would you be willing to confirm if people in a relationship with you also have to follow your votes?

Luxaria wrote:@ Kiku-Alice-Tiki alliance

Chinomi wrote:CALL ME TRASH

I understand poor life is not very exciting, I hear you don't even have Oil Wrestling Tuesdays (THANKS FOR ELIMINATING TUESDAYS ASSHOLE. I WILL FIND YOU) which is something I can't get through the week without. But that doesn't mean we need to jump to conclusions just because they're something that can entertain people for under $1.

No, those who follow me do not have to follow my vote. They are free to voice their own opinions on which of their fellow man is next to die. But this was also not a very exciting mafia combo to make Tiki the scapegoat and protect somebody else.

I think I've said about 200 times before that I have a level of control and protection over my obedient employees that extends beyond making them don the maid outfit. It isn't my fault certain people's parents could not afford to give their children glasses to allow their diseased eyes to see what I wrote, while also feeding them whatever the lower class eats at the same time.

Kiku had not voted yet, was away, and I wanted Tiki dead. Take of that what you will. It's really not that complicated. If I could control everyone's votes, I would have voted for Tiki with everyone. Twice.

Though the last minute vote change also caused a bit of interesting conversation.






As for the Alice vote. I really feel if her being apprehensive and shaky is enough to vote for her, we have other options. I'm not feeling a bad enough vibe from her to vote when Tiki is still here, but if that's what the people want I won't stop you. There's a not insignificant chance they're both maf.

However, oh no, I dropped my paper listing suspicious things I don't like. Quick, don't read it. It flew down to the bottom of this post. Kiku can you get that for me before someone reads i-

eleni wrote:Tiki. Tiki you don't get to waltz back in with a last-minute vote for yourself and then provide a non-explanation!!! 8(

also wtf did someone manipulate kiku's vote? i'm going to assume that's def mafia.

eleni wrote:Let us all side eye the hell out of everyone who voted for Tiku pls

eleni wrote:umm well anyway vote: AliceofOz

not really sure what to make of the events re: Kotakia right now so i'll wait for her to maybe? shed some light on it. /o\

eleni wrote:aside from Tiki and Alice, i am most suspicious of chinomi because of her vote

"Note to T3t from T3t,

Dear T3t,

Hello there, it's T3t. How are you doing? I hope you made it to your conference without the world irreversibly changing on the way. That would be terrible.

I am somewhat concerned about the fact it looks like eleni is pointing in a different direction with each of her 10 fingers and was so quick to play the vote change of an inactive as a maf ability. It seems like she's protesting way too much and is ready to lead a lynch immediately.

Maybe if anyone sees this, they'll talk about it. It's probably important to look at leads like this. Probably good to withhold your vote until then, you know how the peasants look to you for guidance.

Anyway, Kotakia is gone. She went on vacation, I'm not sure where exactly. I hope she's doing alright. She really kept the place in order. I really miss her aroun-"

Cure wrote:If you and Alice are both Mafia, she might have a much more valuable ability than yours. Also, putting yourself on the line like that would have protected both of you rather than letting both of you die.

Yeah, but again, that just completely outs everyone. Alice would still get lynched, and then I would too. And If Alice is the "Counts as two," then that's suddenly a drop of three in the ratio for Mafia, all within 1-3 phases.

I just see no upside.

T3tsuya wrote:

Chinomi wrote:CALL ME TRASH

I understand poor life is not very exciting, I hear you don't even have Oil Wrestling Tuesdays (THANKS FOR ELIMINATING TUESDAYS ASSHOLE. I WILL FIND YOU) which is something I can't get through the week without. But that doesn't mean we need to jump to conclusions just because they're something that can entertain people for under $1.

I NEVER SAID THIS I NEVER SAID THIS
W-WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BEING POOR ANYWAY!! I WAS LIKE YOU ONCE I WAS UP IN THE CLOUDS AND EVERYTHING WAS GREAT AND FANTASTIC AND SOMETIMES I'D DANCE NAKED IN FRONT OF BOULDERS YOU KNOW I KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN I KNOW HOW TO HAVE FUN WITHOUT MONEY BECAUSE IM TIMELESS IM JUST IN A ROUGH SPOT RIGHT NOW AND I AM DOING MY BEST TO MAKE ENDS MEET AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION I HAVE FUN WORKING AT WCDONALDS R-REALLY I ENJOY SMILING TO CUSTOMERS ALL DAY AND FRYING UP FRIES AND FLIPPING BURGERS I DONT NEED YOUR HOMOEROTIC OIL WRESTLING I DONT HAVE TO BE LUBED UP AND TOUCHING OTHER MEN FOR FUN I KNOW WHAT I LIKE OKAY

OKAY

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tet plz you talk too much

chinomi wrote:THANK YOU

You're welcome.

Cure wrote:tet plz you talk too much

Yes.

n★util★s wrote:deo come here and listen to your oneechan's troubles))

*sits with*

i even brought the wcdonalds

vote: AliceofOz although idk will we want someone on tiki to test the second-to-last thing or are we convinced he's unlynchable

cause unlynchable mafia is lol game over if we lose vigs so idk if that's something that would... happen......

i'M SCARED?????? KOTAKIA-CHAN WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR AVATAR