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Welcome to Katabasis Station, Work Shift 4

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Aeiou

Aeiou

I just got off work so I don't really have time to answer before roll over because I honestly have no clue. Just because mechanics though i find Tiki suspicious BUT I obviously fall in the same category orz 
I can say that even tho I've ended up in these shitty situations I'm honestly town :/ I've been dealt a really awful hand lmao

But that's all I have off the top of my head and now I should drive home

Luxaria

Luxaria

Warning: Wall of text. Random thoughts. Who knows? There's no tl;dr, sorry. ;w;

Hm, I was going to make a bigger production of this, but I think I can afford to be a bit brief.

If I die, going forward the thread needs to be a little mindful of who is organizing the rooms and similar. This may not be as much of an issue, considering that mafia probably will never get another convert off over the course of the game, so long as any grouping as administered. Even if there is a room of only three players, if there is a conversion... it should be instantly obvious which room has all three mafia in it. So, keep that in mind.

However, I bring this up because it may be worthwhile to use the next Med Bay or Mitsu or ezzelin and then if they're cleared, have them to set up the groups. Mitsu might be busy on a few days, so ezz may be the better choice here.

Otherwise, you may consider just using lynch and Med Bay on both Aeiou and Rasei according to preference. Rasei has notably said many, many contradictory things throughout the game and is giving me some weird vibes when I read through her posts. I haven't had this feeling about her posts for many months, so it kind of stands out. Aeiou is largely because she was in the same room as Lucas and I wouldn't find it unreasonable for her to have been mafia and covered up a lie with Lucas. Bear in mind: If she's mafia, she 100% had the food poisoning. The fact that it hasn't been used yet is curious to me. Mafia's in this awkward position where if they use the food poisoning, it outs Aeiou instantly. Whereas if they hold it, they risk Aeiou being lynched and passing it along onto town.

So in other words, if two people die, then Aeiou is 100% mafia. Otherwise, it's an interesting situation.

If I had to give gut reads, I don't feel like Tiki is mafia, and probably Mitsu, but I can't be sure. If Mitsu were mafia, her interaction with Rasei makes no sense. No one would have questioned her if she tried for a lynch on Rasei, as Ninfia did. Instead, she tried to ask Rasei for clarity, when a mafia gains more from just going with the lynch if Rasei were town. If Rasei were mafia and Mitsu were mafia, then it still makes no sense. Mitsu would tell her in private to fix her statement, rather than bring the attention up in thread when she knows Rasei might not be there for the rest of the phase. Rasei could just as easily show up and say, "Oops I just realized I meant to say explore" without any attention on it from Mitsu.

So there may be WIFOM, but it's why I'm less inclined to view Mitsu as mafia for now. Unlike her, I don't have any solid reasoning for Tiki beyond... his entire posting style and personality this game seems more like himself, if that makes sense, being as pro-town as he can be. Usually when Tiki is mafia, he is a bit more guarded and has more of an agenda with his posts. Right now he's just collecting information and trying to interpret it, and lamenting when these awkward situations arise. So he may be mafia, but my gut says probably not. And do note: I'm not usually the type to give gut reads, but I've been trying to do that more these days. Lucas was a gut read and he flipped mafia (I said I wanted to vote for him before any votes came in, but I was still deliberating).

alcasync and Kiyoko are curious. I can completely believe Kiyoko's choice to go for the flamethrower. I also think if she were mafia that regardless of Literary maf and IRL stuff, she'd put in more effort, whereas right now she seems... mostly okay with the proceedings and hasn't felt the need to chime in? This could be mafia behavior, so she's a bit either/or for me.

alcasync hasn't been as aggressive as usual, but I haven't seen her in a game as much recently. That said, her claims and thoughts have been roughly in line with how she plays as town? She may have amped up her mafia playstyle, but otherwise, she reads more town than mafia to me for reasons I can't quite explain. I see Mitsu posted as I wrote this. I don't have time to go back, but I did re-read the thread last night and I think I remember one thing from alca sounding a bit off. Can't remember what it was, though.

This leaves ezzelin and drandahl. drandahl is like Tiki where something about his posts feels less like mafia than usual to me, which could be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective. I feel like mafia would be less inclined to state outright that they had gone and acquired the key, since that's a more mafia-leaning role to have. This could be WIFOM, though. There's nothing necessarily preventing him from being mafia, like Tiki, except my overall impression.

ezzelin is curious to me. I definitely agree with her speculation and thoughts, and for that matter I suggested earlier I would not want her lynched without damning evidence. Her being with confirmed town Ninfia means she cannot have been the convert, but it does not preclude her from being mafia from the get-go. So for that matter, killing off Ninfia last night... is unusual. I'm not sure what the angle would be if she were mafia and chose to kill off the person that was tied to her. Ninfia dying is strange, in general, but I think it does make sense considering she was completely out of the talks for conversion and seemed pro-town. So then it's, "Why not ezzelin?" which could be as simple as "Well they had to choose one over the other, obviously, since two cannot die." So, I have no real answer for that.

I've also been thinking how unlikely it is for mafia to let talkative players rule the thread. If I'm town and have been talking the most, followed by Mitsu, and then ezzelin, it makes me think it's likely for one of those two to be mafia. It's not unheard of for mafia to lie low, though, but I do think it's riskier in this kind of game when town designing the plans amongst themselves (thus with town's interests in mind from all angles) can just outright lock mafia out of the game. Since I feel slightly more confident in Mitsu being town, this sort of leaves ezzelin by default.

So, in the end, I kind of recommend using the Med Bay on either Mitsu or ezzelin to determine their alignment and designate someone new to project the groups for the thread. I advocate lynching Rasei, probably.

One other thing to keep in mind is that I feel it is fairly unlikely for Tiki, Lucas, and Aeiou to have all been mafia. So to that end, if Lucas and Aeiou were both mafia and lied about the galley, having the server room go off would massively screw them over. Since I left the room, and we know one other did (Lucas?), this actually suggests to me that Aeiou might be town. Consider that mafia had no way of knowing I'd leave the room. If two of them left, they'd negate the server room, though at great risk to outing 66% of mafia (so maybe that was never a plan to begin with... hmmmm...). But then that'd mean only Tiki was in the room, so the ship task would have gone off--which it didn't. You can interpret this however you want? But I feel the simplest two answers are either 1. Aeiou is town or 2. Mafia didn't want to out 66% of them. To be fair, the second option is pretty good clause to not pull that ploy. So actually, idk, Aeiou is interesting.

Hmmm... I was going to offer to draft up groups for the next phase or two in the event that I die, and depending on which players might die, but tbh I'm feeling lazy and after how much has gone right, I'd say town is probably in a pretty goddamn good position as is.

Again, if I die and am not around to speculate, consider the groupings I made for both days. Look at my reasoning for N1. My reasoning for N2 is that I tried to make Med Bay as likely as I could to have both mafia so they wouldn't both be able to slip off and grab roles without town realizing.

I'm just rambling at this point. I hope I live. If not, good luck. Maybe these thoughts are accurate, maybe not.

Entelechy

Entelechy

Entelechy wrote:Welcome to Katabasis Station, Work Shift 4 - Page 25 E205EfH

Everyone pitches in, as the large teams set to work in the Engine Room and the med bay. The soft vibrations of the station change as the reactor is brought back into the normal safe range, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief. The work completed, everyone trudges back to the rednezvous for a rest, and continued medical testing. The head count checks out, all are present, but on the way in, someone spys a fresh Stain. Someone walking among you now is no longer who they were...

No one was incinerated.

The following Ship Tasks were completed:


  • Med Bay
  • Engineering


Vote for one player whose Alignmentyou would like to know.


[*]

CREW: 06
INFECTED: 03





nautilus

nautilus

CREW: 06
INFECTED: 03

UHHHHHHHHHHHH LMAO

Luxaria

Luxaria

So there's several things that can lead to this. Collusion, or people just not following the plan for whatever retarded reason.

Sigh.

Luxaria

Luxaria

Like what is honestly the point in trying if people are just going to throw away a massive lead like that.

nautilus

nautilus

closes eyes slowly

What are the chances that the one person who doesn't follow the plan is targeted by the mafia and is converted

drandahl

drandahl

Less than somemaf exploring Eng early on, and convincing town to jump ship?

Or, if Lux played a WIFOM game hoping maf wouldn't target her (and betrayed her plan again?)

nautilus

nautilus

Less than somemaf exploring Eng early on?

What do you mean by this?

ANYWAYS, UM, I GUESS,

There is a possibility that the convert is Lux, but
a) If Lux was town I don't think she'd lie about being in the Brig, and she would probably have exploded in fire since she used the No Can Be Converted Role on herself

Unless she lied about that
b) If Lux was town and decided to bail, she probably would've told us like :59 before rollover

c) honestly mafia would probably want to remove a clear asap

this is getting to intense wifom though

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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Yo just hopping in here for a quick second because I'm working on flavor text still (four to go). I do want to assert that I stayed in the eng room and did the eng thing like I was supposed to, though I imagine the convert's going to be claiming they stuck to the plan too so I don't think that even means anything.

I'm actually down for investigating Mitsu/ezz just to have someone other than Luxaria who can make plans, but given that we had a convert situation is there anyone we'd rather investigate, instead?

I'm still interested in lynching Aeiou given the whole Lucas situation, for what it's worth.

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

nautilus

nautilus

Actually doubleposting, but:

Less than somemaf exploring Eng early on, and convincing town to jump ship?

Where did this occur, though? As far as I'm aware, everyone seemed on board to go to Engineering this phase, and if maf explored Engineering early on that still means that the ship task had to be done, since it's the ship task itself which can trigger early game end, not simply being there

e: thx kiyoko

fwiw I'm down with being investigated, but idk who we should investigate given the conversion --



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drandahl

drandahl

I'm picturing Explore Eng N0. To either block town, or have a chance at misleading town. Or, the original N0 convert was a lone town who explored Eng N0.

Also, would Lux warn us? If she honestly thought she might get converted, wouldn't it be in her best interest to prepare for that case?

If nobody was converted, there would be no need to justify her actions.
If she flipped, she'd need to be careful not to incriminate herself.

nautilus

nautilus

..................................

Uh.

I.

Uh. I just thought about something and, uh

I have an idea for how this conversion happened but if...

UHHHHH

drandahl

drandahl

???

nautilus

nautilus

Uh,

Like I actually have an idea for how this could've happened with everyone following the plan, but I

I

Uh

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