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Welcome to Katabasis Station, Work Shift 4

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Rasei
drandahl
ezzelin
Aeiou
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Ninfia
Mr. Alice
Kiyoko
Luxaria
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Tiki The Troll

Tiki The Troll

Okay. Fed, entertained (thank you, Game Grumps), and caught up.

I'm actually just kinda confused about Mitsu's flip to voting Alca. Are you just going around the various others claiming to be in the Cargo Hold on N0 until they give you a reason they're Town? If so, that'd explain the move from Rasei to Alca, but not why it's still on Alca, who said a lot more than Rasei?

Tiki is confuse

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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tbh I have an idea of who I'd like to vote but I really want to hear from drandahl who said he'd be available after 10pm-ish which is soon, and then I'll make a case for my vote. I don't mind changing my vote to make sure the votes aren't split but I want to make sure everyone has a solid reason for voting who they're voting.

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

alcasync

alcasync

Umm! I'm going to bed soon and I'm not sure how much I'll be able to get online tomorrow, and if everyone lynches me when I'm gone, I guess I'd be a little disappointed, but there's not much I'd be able to do about that.

But um.... I've actually been really hesitant about voicing this because I'm not really sure and also because Kiyoko is kind of intimidating but I actually kind of think Kiyoko is mafia. I've kind of felt that she was off this whole game and I figured maybe she was just busy because I know she's been really really busy! But umm. I guess, I'm town, and I know I'm town, and if this game ends today because we're mislynching me I just wanted to make sure I voiced these suspicions for my own sake I guess. ;v;

I also don't think that Rasei and nautilus are on the same team, so maybe one is town and one is mafia but I'm not sure which, and to be honest my vote on Rasei is mainly because she voted me first so I would be okay with changing my vote if we can find a better lynch target.

I-I'll... do my best to check in tomorrow!

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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YELLS WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I'M INTIMIDATING

PROBABLY BECAUSE I YELL EVERY TIME SOMEONE SAYS THEY THINK I'M INTIMIDATING

for what it's worth I legitimately don't believe alca is mafia, even if she's FoSing me. Because in past games, maf!alca never really defended herself and kind of just ghosted so unless like Lux is secretly mafia or something and helping alca write posts I don't really see this as how alca would act as maf.

I'm not maf either tho

For what it's worth my top suspect is actually drandahl and I've been holding off on voting him until he potsed and I've been waiting for him to post ever since he posted in the other game but since he hasn't posted here yet

vote: drandahl

just to get his attention

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

alcasync

alcasync

I...! I'm going to bed but. If we don't vote Kiyoko I would actually really rather we medbay her than Tiki.

I'm going to unvote both lynch and medbay right now and I should be able to get online around lunchtime PST tomorrow and I will check in then! Good night! ;v;

drandahl

drandahl

Here now. Posted in other game, took a break from the forum, and am now coming back to thread.

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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Heading to bed now. Short post. Just wanted to get my thoughts out.

Mitsu's trigger-happy vote switch to alca rubs me the wrong way like a lot, and the way she's pushing for a unified vote on literally anyone at all without discussing things through. And I just went back through thread and the only reasoning anyone had for mitsu being town is "She contributed to thread" but tbh I don't really see any of Mitsu's contributions actually directly leading to catching maf so yeah I guess I'm kinda suspicious as hell of the way Mitsu is behaving this phase.

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

drandahl

drandahl

Expect some scattered spec in multiple posts as I piece some things together. First...

N0
N0 Claims:
Since Lucas did not have items, (and since the Access Key is not in our list), it seems likely that really wasn't alone. I feel comfortable assuming he (or another mafia) was in the Galley with Vowels.

Blaire obviously was honest. Still thinking about whether this makes Kiyo seem less town. I feel like it's still a sane town or maf action to grab flamethrower, though if I assume two roles were grabbed N0 by maf (Roleblocker? and Reactive Medicines) were grabbed by mafia on N0, then Kiyo is cleared. I do think it's more likely Roleblocker was grabbed earlier. Outside of Cargo trips, N2 was the only other time mafia could have nabbed it, and that seems like a weird time to go for it... though I guess I could picture mafia reasoning where it makes sense.

N1 (Med Bay, Server Room, Armory):
Battle Plan:

Roleblocker couldn't have been N1, Mitsu (Server Room had at least Aeiou in it). Well, unless it was via Cargo, as you mention. Since Lucas had no items on death, that makes me think he swapped with another player in a room, and that player went exploring, or that Tiki was the exploring maf. I'm thinking that player went to the Cargo Hold and got Radios (unlucky for maf), by process of elimination of items.

It's interesting to me that Ninfia was killed that night. Thinking about this.



Last edited by drandahl on Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:54 am; edited 2 times in total

drandahl

drandahl

EDIT: Revising my previous statement. Misread my own notes.

drandahl

drandahl

D1 Voting:
=====
✧ Ninfia: Rasei
✧ alcasync: drandahl
✧ Ninfia: unvote
✧ drandahl: Mr. Alice
✧ Mr. Alice: drandahl
✧ ezzelin: Mr. Alice
✧ alcasync: unvote
"I only meant it as an activity vote. I haven't backread yet but will try to do so quickly!"
✧ nautilus: Mr. Alice
"I am going to vote: Mr. Alice for my reasoning above (knocking out her alignment and also Kiyoko's possibility of conversion), and where is everyone sob"
✧ Rasei: Dran
"Rasei is being bad person and voting at work. She see why Blaire is attavite to flamethrower.vote: Dran"
✧ Lux: Blaire
=====

I don't think both Naut and Rasei were mafia on D1. This was a lynch race with two town (if you assume I'm town). Naut brought it from (dran, blaire) -> (blaire) and Rasei brought the tie back in place (blaire) -> (dran, blaire) before Lux closed the tie.

To me, mafia didn't even have to contribute here. I'm going to assume for now that both Nautsu and Rasei were town before the recent conversion.

I don't think a mafia consisting of Tiki and Alca would both claim to have gone to the same room N0, so I'm going to assume mafia is (Kiyo, (Tiki, Alca), Some Recent Convert).

vote: Kiyo

ezzelin

ezzelin

(late) rip [warning:messy cause no tabler or scanner rn]:

Ninfia

Ninfia
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scremans LAofudlLY.

I love your art!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.ninfia.tumblr.com

Tiki The Troll

Tiki The Troll

Bawww...I was hoping things would be clearer after I woke up, heh...nope!

I admit, kinda like Kiyo, I'm still confused by Nautie's unexplained lynch vote, that seemed to be following Rasei, the one she originally voted for?

But then there's still Alca's gut feeling, which, if she isn't Infected, those tend to be on pretty well...and Dran's followup posts on Kiyo make me realize something, in regard to voting. Kiyo didn't vote on D1 (neither did I, I admit, but with most work shifts ending right on rollover during this game, it's not been easy. >.<)...and she didn't vote last phase, either. I know she's been super busy too though, but still, is that odd to anyone else?

This is really starting to remind me of the Vanilla: It's Good For You! clusterfuck in that last phase, heh...

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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drandahl you just made two long posts and then voted me as maf and nowhere in any of your posts do you explain how any of those things imply that i'm maf. The only mention of me is

drandahl wrote:Still thinking about whether this makes Kiyo seem less town. I feel like it's still a sane town or maf action to grab flamethrower, though if I assume two roles were grabbed N0 by maf (Roleblocker? and Reactive Medicines) were grabbed by mafia on N0, then Kiyo is cleared.

which talks about the opposite of why you think i'm maf. Given the last game where you made long posts saying about the same amount of absolutely nothing and flipping town, maybe that's just your MO now, but.

I'm keeping my vote where it is. Thanks.

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

Luxaria

Luxaria

I'm doing some heavy analysis/speculation right now, but something just occurred to me.

Unless we lynch the mafia with the protect before we lynch the one with the flamethrower, and manage to distribute it in time on a target that can block at least one NK, town automatically loses.

...lol.

Going by something Duck told me in my massive PM of questions early N0:

Luxaria wrote:24. For that matter, can you define the parameters of taking one player down with me if I die and have the flamethrower? Will that happen during a status report incineration vote? As in, if I am voted to be incinerated, do I just kill one player at random that voted on me? If I am infected and in a room with another player, and thus I get incinerated, do I take them down with me as well? If I am poisoned by someone due to the galley's ration poisoning role (is that instantaneous, by the way?), do I kill the person that poisoned me? Is there any situation in which I kill a random person? What if I am on EVA or locked in the brig and have the flamethrower? Do I still kill in retaliation?

Duck wrote:If you are voted to by Incinerated, you would kill a player of your choice before they took you down. If you die by any means, you chose who you kill. In the case of being a nk, or poisoned, you would not know who caused it, not would you need to be in the same room as your target. Presumably, you would run around the Station to find your target as soon as you feel yourself starting to die. Oh... Good point about the Brig and EVA. Technically you probably shoudn't, but for the sake of mechanical simplicity in this minigame, I would say you manage to get really creative with that flamethrower and pull off your kill. In a full game, you wouldn't.

And the one with the flamethrower might have the protect, too.

Edit: I guess technically if the one with the flamethrower is the last to get lynched... hm...

4-3
lynch mafia
4-2
NK
3-2
lynch mafia
3-1
NK
2-1
lynch mafia (flamethrower)
1-0

Okay, so either we get the protect and block one NK, or we lynch the one with the flamethrower last in a sequence of mafia lynches. Or both, I guess, but yeah.

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