let's do it let's answer to all ur questions systematically let's go. i'm dividing this post into sections for each thread but
i highly recommend you guys read the whole thing since my thoughts are scattered around this post
thread α Zura wrote:What was nautilus role?
h...ouse... of leaves... ?
chinomi wrote: where did we get the info that mitsu wasn't mafia vs. she was? or is this a new development from you? :0!
Aeiou claimed that she watched lulu for two nights in a row. On n1, lulu was jailed, and the books that acted on her were
House of Leaves (nautilus) and
The Complete World Knowledge Series (Five). lulu claimed to be the town jailer, and if we believe that, then whoever jailed lulu is either mafia or [shenanigans]
* and, for s...ome... reason, we felt like
House of Leaves had a better chance at being that role (it's not). The main implication in mitsu not being the jailer is that either Five
must be the jailer or Aeiou lied about her results. Given that two jails happened in the last phase as well, it's seems more likely that Aeiou lied, or Five IS the jailer but [shenanigans]
**when I say [shenanigans] I'm mostly talking about the possibility of role-copying. Which I think is very likely: alca has already claimed something like that when she said "On N1, I tried to redirect nautilus onto herself. I'm not a dedicated redirect role, that just happened to be the ability I used on N1". She was jailed on N0 and maybe had that action available for her to use on the last night. IT WOULD probably help greatly if alca came forward and explained if this is true or not (if alca is town anyway).
thread β Ardonye wrote: high seraph wrote:If I can get... a summary... of all the actions that got claimed on N0/N1 so far (aeiou, eleni, alca, lulu... those are people I think claimed their actions), then I could maybe answer a few questions. For example, alca asked what happened to her redirection on N1. Nautilus didn't have an action and, what's more, she couldn't be acted upon, so that's what happened there.
If no one else does this, I will start making one before bed.
I could really use this!! ! ! After the whole thread-splitting, my notes are currently in a disarray. i will give u more treats owo
good morning thread γ! Aeiou wrote:House of Leaves- pretty obvious that Nauti was typing like this book and she never denied it so we can assume this was her, she claimed to not have acted on lulu or having been jailer. I have no idea what to make out about anything that is going on here
I can't copy paste natilus's role here but I
can paraphrase the more important parts so here we go. Read these
exactly as they are, even if they are confusing because this is basically exactly what says on the PM i just used a thesaurus to change some words so raie wouldnt kick my butt.
1) after dying, realness is separated in coexisting sections and only the original one will cease progression
2) incapable of executing an action that can be observed or being targeted, whoever comes into such a corridor might easily die
3) impossible to accurately declare as "extinguished of life"
4) thou sunrise-to-sunsets areth counted
Angelstar wrote:then there must be some benefit to all the stuff mitsu's role set off........ right.... the hosrs wouldn't do this to us and just make her cause chaos right.........
Mitsu would suicide at some point in the game and cause all this hell to break lose anyway. All we did was speed up something that was unavoidable.
thread δ lulu wrote:sorry i completely missed this but yes, since nautilus is dead and i doubt anyone's going to revive her (i'll defer to our revive role's judgement if we have a town revive but at least make sure we have 100% clear ratio evidence that nautilus is town and that the revive'll turn her vanilla) i don't think there's any harm in claiming her role for her if you know the specifics
We aren't going to get a Official Hosr Announcement saying "hey guys mitsu was town ok carry on", but we DID get information about her role via
me, and I know you don't have the obligation of following me but that's all the information you guys are ever gonna get about nautilus. I'm willing to be completely open about everything that I know about her.
I know it makes no sense for a role that disrupts town speculation to be town, but it makes EVEN LESS SENSE for a mafia role to be
suicidal. There's also the fact that mitsu is untargetable, but I don't really know exactly what this entails (she might still be vulnerable to NKs, i guess, there is no mention of it in her role). At any rate, if we have a town reviver role out there and you're interested in acting asap (since u might fuCKING DIE BEFORE U CAN REVIVE ANYONE), I would 10000% recommend bringing nautilus back. Please do it before you die, town reviver. Please.
lulu wrote:high seraph is also claiming that nautilus doesn't even have an active ability ("Nautilus didn't have an action and, what's more, she couldn't be acted upon, so that's what happened there."), which nautilus also mentioned before she was lynched (though it makes sense for them to claim that if both of them are maf lol..)
This is actually what troubles me the most. If Aeiou saw nautilus on N1, it should mean that nautilus has an action. And I suppose she might actually have an action, but, if she did then.... I think she didn't know what it was exactly because her role PM is really fucking cryptic about it (refer to my answer to Aeiou above).
stuff unrelated to mitsu's role:
Aeiou wrote:Lulu's book which she claimed for me and she was jailed and said she was jailer so I'm assuming she somehow got redirected onto herself
Butt book - lulu was also NK target, I'll assume it was this book that sent in the NK
wouldn't you say that the Butt Book is the redirection role then? Unless lulu specifically stated somewhere that she DID target herself and wasn't subjected to any redirection, which I guess I could have missed??
(How does a jailer even target themselves tho?)
i'm gonna post this and be back with general thoughts soon
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