Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four]

Tiki The Troll · **661** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:20 pm

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† ☾u♪e † wrote:OvO it was your teamm-

no

And I'll say this once more, too.
There's no way I would have faked that kind of emotional reaction.
There's no way I would have agreed to do it, especially on my one day off.

Have I lied bout things? Maybe. Maybe not. Nature of the game. The end of the game reveals all.
But on this very particular subject?
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Mr. Gerbear · **662** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:21 pm

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I prefer jeans goat

Cure · **663** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:22 pm

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Tiki The Troll wrote:

† ☾u♪e † wrote:OvO it was your teamm-

no

And I'll say this once more, too.
There's no way I would have faked that kind of emotional reaction.
There's no way I would have agreed to do it, especially on my one day off.

Have I lied bout things? Maybe. Maybe not. Nature of the game. The end of the game reveals all.
But on this very particular subject?

Yet another perfect pagetop.

I don't believe you. OvO

nautilus · **664** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:23 pm

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man tiki idk though...

like the only other reason why I'd consider you a valid n0 silence target (despite the theories ezz proposed to cause this freakish wifom) is if someone redirected a silence onto you n0, but literally no one in this game has claimed bussing you with someone else or even hinted at it

Tiki The Troll · **665** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:23 pm

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Mr. Gerbear wrote:Also Vote: Tiki obvs. I mean. Aside from being really shady, that whole "sorry to my alignment" thing was like... ??? Like come on tiki at least apologize to town

Eh. It's a thing I do. I prefer to use neutral terms, regardless of alignment. Long term, multi-game strategy, heh.

Cure · **666** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:25 pm

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OvO k but ur still mafia

nautilus · **667** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:26 pm

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I'm like chopping up this response to Tiki into pieces, but I guess another thing I can't really reconcile is that Tiki is a killproof power role that can act consistently with no restrictions but the every other night thing (which I guess I've seen before as a bulletproof cop and a Slightly Hard To Kill-ish Doctor), yet of the players we've seen so far that have died, we have seen:

regular role cop (not killproof)
regular alignment cop (not killproof)
redirect (every night?)
a delayed kill power

It just... seems a little overpowered in the grand scheme of things to suddenly have a killproof power role? LIKE, OK, TET WAS BASICALLY IMMUNE TO ALL ACTIONS EVERY ODD NIGHT, BUT ALSO MAFIA COULD ALSO EXPLOIT HIS ROLE TO SEND IN NKs WITH IMPUNITY THAT SAME GAME SO I FEEL LIKE IT EVENS OUT THERE

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angel★ · **668** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:27 pm

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oh yeah this might be obvious but i can't detect on things that have anything to do with alignment in it ("I am the dedicated town stunner.” and the thing that raie said about "one of lux, angel, and aeiou are mafia" were things i really wanted to detect on.... but :( )

Tiki The Troll · **669** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:30 pm

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nautilus wrote:man tiki idk though...

like the only other reason why I'd consider you a valid n0 silence target (despite the theories ezz proposed to cause this freakish wifom) is if someone redirected a silence onto you n0, but literally no one in this game has claimed bussing you with someone else or even hinted at it

Which is precisely why this game, of all things, finally tipped the balance, taking from fairly stable to an absolute crash.

And about the emotional response thing (and the claiming to be busy thing)? That's something, out of principle, I avoid. I mean, i suppose there are some emotions to lie about, mostly in how concerned/calm you are about a situation. But pretending to be angry, or sad, or whatever else...I really don't wanna put any negative emotions on you, or anyone here just to win a game.

Vent and rant a bit? Eh, sure. Usually comically though, and never to hurt anyone. But such frustration is not something I would fake.

Ever.

(Though, note to Lucas: Continue to make frustrated posts, fake or not, because your frustration is humorous and adorable. <3)

nautilus · **670** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:34 pm

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Actually I guess it's plausible to have Bulletproof Stunner, given the existence of Bulletproof Cop in that one game where it was Very Strong compared to most abilities, but I guess I just can't reconcile its existence alongside Other Stunner, and especially not against its existence with Other Stunner And They Both Managed To Stun The Same Person N0. :( I'm sorry Tiki, I hope you understand why I'm voting you but at the same time I'm glad you came back to talk to everyone!

@Angel - fair enough tbh i'll think of something. The real shitty thing is that if you're town mafia will probably kill me the next night phase with the intention of making it so I can't ever confirm your answer but I hope that doesn't happen

Tiki The Troll · **671** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:36 pm

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nautilus wrote:Actually I guess it's plausible to have Bulletproof Stunner, given the existence of Bulletproof Cop in that one game, but I guess I just can't reconcile its existence alongside Other Stunner, and especially not against its existence with Other Stunner And They Both Managed To Stun The Same Person N0. :( I'm sorry Tiki, I hope you understand why I'm voting you but at the same time I'm glad you came back to talk to everyone!

@Angel - fair enough tbh i'll think of something. The real shitty thing is that if you're town mafia will probably kill me the next night phase with the intention of making it so I can't ever confirm your answer but I hope that doesn't happen

Eh, fair. I'll still stick to it though, and just feel content that the end of the game will prove it right.

Just...please...Nautie...
Town...
...hell, maybe even the Mafia and neutral...
...
KILL THE SILENCER

Cure · **672** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:37 pm

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nautilus wrote:It just... seems a little overpowered in the grand scheme of things to suddenly have a killproof power role? LIKE, OK, TET WAS BASICALLY IMMUNE TO ALL ACTIONS EVERY ODD NIGHT, BUT ALSO MAFIA COULD ALSO EXPLOIT HIS ROLE TO SEND IN NKs WITH IMPUNITY THAT SAME GAME SO I FEEL LIKE IT EVENS OUT THERE

it was t h e b e s t

k so who else do we think is mafia here, guys.

Tiki The Troll · **673** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:42 pm

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Hmm...actually, I'm trying to think back. Lux, how did the stunners in Snowball Maf work again?

Cure · **674** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:42 pm

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LIKE NORMAL STUNNERS?????????

nautilus · **675** Re: Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four] Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:44 pm

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Spoiler:

★ The Luxaria

i'll get back to this later

★ The Mr. Alice

Is not Jailer #1, Jailer #2, Stunner, "Wounder"

★ ~~The Sammiya~~

"My role ability is that if I get targeted for a NK or a vig kill my death is delayed for a phase, because while I got hurt I flew away."

★ The Cure

Can act while jailed as a part of her ability (according to her), claims to be jailed by town jailer
May be Jailer #1, Jailer #2, Stunner, "Wounder"

★ The Jeanne

Kiyoko claims that Jeanne did not send in stuns/jails or NK on n0
Softclaimed "The Little" on D1

★ The Nautilus

Not!!! Neutral!!!
Killed Lucas!!!!!!!!!
Is a vig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

★ ~~The Kiyoko~~

"Jeanne wasn't any of the stuns/jails, and also did not send the NK." - implied to have potential watcher abilities
Redirect, redirected Jeanne to themselves n0, flipped town
Claims that The Dash, The Fly are in this game
Apparently received a PM at rollover, which indicates that she cannot act n1
Claimed to have received notification that someone (Rasei?) acted on her

★ The Tiki the Troll

Is not "Wounder", unless Wounder can self-target
Claimed stun on plotstickers N0, Adibros N2, every other night
Killproof, used up
Well...because the stun part of my role was actually told to me outside of the role PM, a last minute adjustment Ninfia made, concerned over balance (which is the other thing I have goin' against me now, heh).

★ The Five

Claims that The Mirror, The Twin, The Return are in this game
Claimed stun on plotstickers N0, Sammiya N2
The role that I have now is not the first role I was given. I was initially given a role that was... Well, each night I could target a player and make them only able to talk in quotes from the last day phase for the next day. I had no idea what to do with it, because as town I would not want to restrict anybody talking or cut down on speculation in any way. So I... asked the host why I would use this, given the above, and I was offered a new role? I made it clear I didn't want to skew the balance of the game or anything, she insisted it was fine, so I went ahead and took the offer. Now... I am a dedicated stunner, as I have said.

★ ~~The Takumi (Chinomi)~~

Claimed psuedo-investigative or investigative ability, apparently investigated Lucas N0 and got an identical role as her own, flipped town

★ ~~The High Seraph~~

"??? I don't learn alignments, and I do learn roles but not... for investigation purposes...... My role is kind of ambiguous tbh and my first reaction was to scream at the host for giving me an investigation role since I'm a terrible detective bUT she clarified that that was not........ exactly what my role does. I don't wanna go super in-depht with this because I hope this misunderstanding will get resolved"
"I acted on Plot (not responsible for the stun tho) and, therefore, I know what her role ability is. I don't know her card or her alignment, but making the assumptions isn't that hard. I'm very positive that she is town."
Claimed to have acted on Plot n0 and received her role, which is apparently town
Flipped mafia, likely mafia role cop due to chi's claims

★ The Katagi

Claimed a role which can copy items: claimed to have copied the item that killed Plot (in the process creating intermission #2) and tried to pass it to nautilus, but it was intercepted by ezzelin
Item passing is a rollover action?

★ ~~The Plotstickers~~

Claimed some kind of flavour-based alignment cop role, did not get result N0 due to stun, flipped town

★ The She-Ra

I'm going to add in here that I have a very similar role to what tiki is claiming, and even Hayley told me that my abilities "look scummy" and would probs be most helpful for a maf player so there's no way we'd BOTH be town imo.

★ The Aeiou

Claims The Change is in this game

★ The AdiosBromigo
★ The Rasei

Claims The Create is in this game
Claimed to have acted on Kiyoko n0
Kiyoko believes she is neutral, claims her ability is that she holds powers hostage for 48 hours until the target does something creative, corroborated by Lux

★ The Angelstar

Claims lie detector
Cannot check alignments
ヾangel★★★★★彡◦°˚☆ wrote:N0:
I ask: "Is it true that 1+1=3?"
Answer: "No, It does not."

N2: I first submitted "I stunned Plot.” - Five right when rollover happened in the event of another phase end, but I thought that we would pretty much get Five's alignment for sure when Tiki died, so it wasn't worth it to look into that. Instead, I chose a different line of suspicion, and submitted "On N0, I redirected Jeanne to herself.’ - Kiyo
Answer: "These words are true."

★ The Ezzelin

Claims that the Dash likely exists in this game, though she is not the card herself
Claims that items are used up at rollover, but can be spawned at any point in the phase
Claims to be able to "borrow items", removing them from being accessed by players (?) but is able to return them later
Intercepted the item katagi created

★ The Mr. Gerbear

Roles That Exist That Haven't Been Claimed Explicitly And Obviously By a Player Yet
Silencer/"Wounder"
Jailer #1
Jailer #2
Phase ender
"Item" generating role
Stunner

Cards In The Game

The Arrow - nautilus
The Change (according to Aeiou)
The Flower - high seraph
The Dash - Tiki
The Create (according to Rasei), is probably Rasei tbh
The Fly - Sammiya
The Mirror - chinomi
The Twin - katagi
The Return (according to Five)
The Sweet - plotstickers
The Little - Jeanne
The Float - Kiyoko
The Libra - Angel

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Cardcaptor Sakura Mafia [Day Four]

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