A TOTALLY AVERAGE MAFIA GAME

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I did not get the random information thing. Who got the random information thing. Pls share. If we're all vanilla that's literally all we have to go off right :V??

Wait, do we not even get a ratio?

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i didnt get any info either, hmm

and i think rasei said that since we didnt get up to 7? players, there wasnt going to be a ratio

Ratio? What is this Ratio you speak of? >.>

No info for Tiki.

Luxaria wrote:I am placing a bounty on my own head. The first mafia to successfully N0 me henceforth gets a 1000 word handwritten story from me. This count is doubled to 2000 words if it's in a main game. The succeeding mafia will be granted a 20 word prompt of their choosing.

I have tried this more than once.
And yet I somehow still wasn't a part of the first Mafia to NK you.

I did, by chance, get the information last night. I am evaluating it before I share more, though, because it came with a warning about carelessly sharing it, which makes me curious as to how and how much of it I should share. I think the warning might just be a generic warning that is attached to the RNG information each night, though. Sort of like those old warnings on online games of, "Your game experience may change during online play."

I can say that I don't know which type of information it falls under. The closest one it fits is Type 1 or possibly Type 2, but it doesn't feel like either.

So this all said, sharing information is definitively better than saying nothing since the only other information we have is Five being the N0 NK. But I think I'll wait for commentary on this post before I figure out how I want to share the information. This might be a lot of to-do about nothing if it is actually Type 1 information. Looking at the types again, I am guessing 3 and 4 relate to the person receiving the information? Though type 3 seems a bit odd since if you're viewed as the mentioned "detective", you'd know you acted, and if it's another name it can only be the mafia, right?

If we're all vanilla then yeah, the only people who should appear on a Type 3 piece of information would either be someone who's received information at least once during the game or the mafia. It leaves so much to chance that the information is kinda... nearly useless?? It's tough, yo

What sort of commentary are you looking for though? I don't think there's a whole lot to say until we see the info. I don't really have anything to add and I feel like the NK could've even been randomized since I feel like there's no reason to specifically kill anyone just yet.

How will we ever know if we are in a mislynch you lose situation lol I feel more blind than normal with this game

Aeiou wrote:What sort of commentary are you looking for though? I don't think there's a whole lot to say until we see the info.

Yeah, I realize this. So as answer: I don't even know. I guess it was just seeing if... I don't know, anything might cause me to figure out the nature of what this warning might have meant on the info. As said, I am 90% sure it's not anything specific.

So how about this. Before I figure out how to share the information, I'll start some more discussion by touching on another point Aeiou just said:

If you had to pick between No Lynch or lynching a player this phase, which would you pick and why? This goes for everyone. I have a tangential thought related to this, but I want to see if anyone else picks up on it before I go into detail.

Hmm its hard because I hate lynching people for no reason. I know its part of the game but I like to have some sort of theory behind a vote. So at the moment I dont know who I'd pick really, so while a no lynch drags a game on and reveals no info for us its hard for me not to.

Lets actually also talk about the ratio
AT MOST there would be 2 mafia.
Starting would've been 4/2, assuming Five was town because why would the NK be on a mafia member that would bring us to 3/2. If we mislynch we'd actually lose this phase.

The other starting ratio could be 5/1, minus five it'd be 4/1. Mislynch + NK would mean next day phase would be 2/1 with a lose at mislynch.

So voting blindly we could screw ourselves over. But at the same time is it just delaying the inevitable?

Its also interesting because if the info RNG's onto a mafia they can just say whatever they want pretty much. Hmm.

lux, i think you might as well just share the info, like things are going to be difficult enough as is

and even with the info, it'll be difficult to tell whether its usable or like, how much stock we should put into it

i'd rather start lynching, even if its most likely gonna be random at this point, because like aeiou said, we'd just be waiting to die anyway

I had a whole post written out and just realized I made a stupid math mistake and accidentally wrote a hypothetical 1:5 starting ratio as still being 1:5 on D1. So that was a waste of time.

Short version: I asked these questions since my information said that starting ratio was 1:4:1, meaning it's 1:3:1 now. Meaning if we lynch a town and mafia manages to NK another town, the game ends. That's still two chances to hit a neutral with either lynch or NK and not lose instantly, so it depends on how you want to weigh the odds.

Initially my thought was 1:5 or 1:4:1 both benefited from a NL on D1 since I thought 1:5 meant skipping a lynch would let us get 1:2 on D3 in worst-case scenario. But I blundered and we'd actually be 1:2 on D2 if we ML on D1. Which is arguably better.

Whether you believe the veracity of the information or not (and I don't know if I or we should since it technically falls under none of the types?), we still can only lynch or no lynch. Logically, I can't see the ratio being 2:4 for a number of reasons, leaving 1:5 or 1:4:1 as possibilities. So it comes down to optimizing for one of those outcomes. I was set to NL today prior to realizing my math blunder, but now I'm not so sure.

Hmm.

So...who we gonna vote on? =D

Edit: Actually, that's an interesting thought. Usually in vanilla games, it's voting record that helps weed out Mafia, see who has been defending who, who's not been wanting to vote out Mafia, etc.

If Mafia is a lone wolf, then they have little need of doing so. This'll be interesting. =D

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Vote: Luxaria

It's interesting to me because the only information is the NK which could have been RNG'd, but Five is nearly always killed N0 or N1, and I can also see spiteful NK after End of the World.

I don't know how I'd rank the four of you in terms of my expectation on your N0 targets, and thus the one I'd be more willing to lynch. I've never see a one-person mafia before.

I guess I'd say in order of likelihood:

Mr. Gerbear = Aeiou => Tiki the Troll > Blaire.

So I guess I am least likely to vote Blaire. But honestly, who knows. She could have just as easily done it. This is the best I've got.