Another Side, Another Mafia game. (Kingdom Hearts UPICK)

Okay, so first thing, I'm alive I guess. Second thing, Drandahl did not get his win condition through burning, because I asked the following of Sammiya regarding fire kills.

Q: What happens on rollover if someone dies from fire?
A: It'll show up as "X was burned to death. They were <alignment>."

He previously confirmed oiling me, and as of rollover Sammiya revealed I still have the oil on me. If his fire kill got redirected, I feel like it wouldn't work since the target would not be oiled. That said, the rollover does not indicate anyone getting burned to death.

So Drandahl has left something secret, but I guess he got his win condition. Was it killing someone else? Did he kill Eleni? Did any town fire off vigilante shots last night?

Eleni dying confirms her being town. The attempt on Kiyoko could have been on anyone, so we don't know what that means. We know there's a protect, but we don't know if it's related to whatever Kiyoko and Alcasync have alluded to or if it's a doctor or something.

We know who one stunner is (unless someone didn't send in a stun last night? Or both stuns got redirected to the same target?).

I'm going to follow through on my suspicion yesterday and Vote: Plotstickers to see what she can say to defend herself.

This scramble...

Drandahl, you won't answer what your win condition was, will you? Probably not since you said you would help neither side.

oh ):

Kiyoko wrote:On the point of there being no ignition, either the arsonist chose not to act, or else AliceofHearts is the arsonist and was stunned from acting, or else Luxaria is lying about there being an arsonist in the first place.

We can wait for Drandahl to confirm, if he even wants to at this point, but I have information as to the arsonist in general if you doubt me on the oil claims and scum-read me now as a result. Alternatively, solve the riddle I gave you.

I'm going to split the votes. Since I think both Tiki and plotstickers are likely to be mafia, I don't see any downsides to doing this. If it turns out that one of them is town after all, we'll at least get information by splitting the votes.

drandahl, if you were scrambler, I will personally make an effort to track you down and kill you in every game from now on. nvn

Luxaria, if you have any additional information to share can you please share it now? ;v;

vote: Tiki The Troll

Actually though... If we were to trust eleni's information that drandahl visited Luxaria on the first night (which we should trust because eleni flipped town), what does that mean if drandahl isn't the arsonist?

O...kay. I take it Drandahl has more than one win condition, one of which involves scrambling a certain number of actions since it's phrased "a" win condition rather than "his" win condition. Maybe he didn't choose to act, but I don't think it's a waste of his action if he needs to scramble 9001 actions to win. Maybe this idea is OP, idk.

I hadn't really considered the possibility of him not being the arsonist, but I'll end up posting in 5 hours if I don't post this as it is.

The attempt made on Kiyoko could have been redirected ignition, NK, or a vig kill. Either way, it failed and she still has opportunities to wine and dine. I'm leaning toward the first possibility if scrambling is part of his win condition, especially if we can trust what Eleni said about Drandahl visiting Luxaria on night zero. IDK how likely a vig kill is.

AliceofOz was stunned, so it looks like she wasn't responsible for any of the kills or the stun. Scrambling has got my brain all scrambled up.

RIP, Eleni.

Also, hi, Luxaria. This is the quickest almost substantial post I've ever written after a rollover, and I'm not the greatest at defending myself, so you might have to wait a while for me to formulate a defense.

Possibilities:

A)
Drandahl is neutral and fake-claiming arsonist for the sake of thwarting town, and mafia actually has the arsonist role and is completely fine letting him claim the role.

B)
Drandahl is a mafia arsonist claiming neutral, and the real neutral has no desire to out Drandahl one way or the other.

C)
Drandahl is neutral and arsonist.

Eleni says he visited me. I can guarantee that I got oiled. If he's not the arsonist, then he did something else upon visiting me.

We don't know if the scramble only worked on certain alignments, or if neutral or mafia triggered it. It doesn't sound like a town role?

@ Alcasync: I'm thinking of sharing something soon.

Reading Plotstickers' post.

Plotstickers wrote:The attempt made on Kiyoko could have been redirected ignition, NK, or a vig kill. Either way, it failed and she still has opportunities to wine and dine. I'm leaning toward the first possibility

It wasn't a redirected fire kill. I can guarantee this given what Sammiya said about a player being listed as "burned to death" if they died from fire.

I can also tell you I asked her that question on N0 before I was ever oiled, because my character is Aqua and I am the Firefighter.

I would be okay claiming my role, though I would like to ask that Tiki or plotstickers claims before myself, Kiyoko or AliceofOz. Because I think I know these three roles and can call mafia out if they try to claim a role that one of these people have. ;v;

That's partially why I thought it was redirected--because no one was burned to death in the absence of oil (i.e., clean Kiyoko). How would it show up if they weren't burned to death? Sorry, I might've missed your posting it. :Oc

I'm Winnie the Pooh.

plotstickers wrote:I'm Winnie the Pooh.

Okay but what is your role power?