T3tsuya wrote:The fact miller/tailor roles exist does not completely negate investigation on somebody who's role is known and proven. I am one of those people. I'm not strictly convinced Town would have two roles as OP as Kotakia's. Example being "I am a miller role AND I can change votes AND I can have a harem AND I am a tailor role".
yes, i don't dispute that at all, but i personally wouldn't consider your role "known and proven." yes, you've shown some aspects of your ability in-thread. but i doubt that's all there is. which is totally fine. i'm not saying you or anyone else has to reveal the full extent of their abilities. also, i definitely don't think you have all of those powers. i do, however, think it would be plausible if there was a mafia member who was a tailor.
interestingly, you note here that you also think Kotakia's role is OP. yet you FoS'd me for doubting her because of the same reason.
T3tsuya wrote:Which is part of my other suspicion that is not Kotakia-killing-based, you've been sideeyeing people voting for Tiki, and then you're suspicious of me for not voting Tiki.
well yes, my reason for sideeyeing people voting for Tiki is because imo the votes were purposely pushed onto a lynchproof player at the very end of the phase to save Alice.
voting Tiki now is a completely different story. also ftr, i think Alice is a better lynch target this phase so it's not so much that i'm sideeying you for not voting Tiki, it's me sideeying you for bypassing three much scummier (imo) people to vote for me. i'm not sure why this is suspicious to you and i feel like we're going in circles here lol.
T3tsuya wrote:You've been pointing a lot of fingers at a lot of different people especially when suspicion is cast on you.
no one has been particularly suspicious of me except for you and Lux to some degree. so if i've been "pointing a lot of fingers," it hasn't been because i'm trying to deflect suspicion.
T3tsuya wrote:Tiki - Is a lynchproof and we don't know how he operates very well. I think he's mafia. But I'm not willing to spend three phases figuring out how exactly we put in the secret code to kill him. I'm waiting for a vig role to sort that out, if they don't, we'll get to it.
ok, so out of curiosity, what do you think about his role? you've said before that you think he's lying- do you think that he could instead just be one-time lynchproof?
also this is just a general comment, but we could totally make Tiki second in votes this phase to prove/disprove his roleclaim.
T3tsuya wrote:So all in all, of the four options presented there. I chose you because when push comes to shove you have been the only person who we know of that had the chance to protect a power role, and didn't. Even if it had failed, if you had tried I would vote differently. But you didn't even try. And you already explained it wasn't because you thought you'd be redirected, you just did not do it.
can we not forget that Alice could have protected Kotakia last night? i also pointed out the gap in her logic earlier. by your reasoning, you should also be sideeying Alice pretty heavily.
it's true that i didn't take into consideration redirection. but let's not gloss over the fact that Kotakia asked to be jailed next night, which was a large part of why i didn't target her. others like Kiyoko asked for any town stuns/jails to target potential maf members.
T3tsuya wrote:Why be suspicious of me when there are X other players that other people find suspicious? Especially given Kotakia is confirmed town investigator and cleared me, there's other options.
i'd be suspicious of anyone, even "cleared" people, started tunneling me for reasons i legitimately don't think make me scummy. also, i'm suspicious of you but it's not like i think you're definitely mafia? i still believe we have higher priority targets, such as finding the bus driver or Tiki/Alice/Lux.
T3tsuya wrote:You know I less than three you. I gotta play this game, we better still be friends after this. The only reason I'm pressing so hard is that I know from experience you can follow the greater mafia master plan really well without a script.
of course, that's a given haha. and that... sounds like a compliment but what is the "greater mafia master plan" even LOL
Luxaria wrote:Not saying these comments of yours were scummy--because they weren't--but it seemed weird to me that the person I heavily FOS'd seemed to ignore your immediate D1 comments, but harped upon similar ones posted by another player. This alone isn't much, but in conjunction with the aforementioned comments to me--which I linked above upon request--and T3tsuya's line of inquiry/suspicion that started somewhere around page 20-22, I just didn't feel like I was getting a positive read from you at that time.
ahh ty Lux for going back and digging up posts, what you're talking about makes sense now. umm not really sure what to say except for the fact that i personally was never suspicious of Alice for that comment. i really only started getting suspicious of her when she placed that really weird (imo) vote for Tiki.
okay i. need a break. time to get lunch and do productive things at work for at least a while lol. (is it horrible that i'm most active in the thread at work....... after i get home i'm just drained from the commute lol. orz)