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The last time i followed a plan, Alpaca was mafia and lead on a chase. The time before that, we hanged on to every word Kiyoko was saying and she was mafia. I have proof

Okay, but Lux had been cleared by the Med Bay and there are no millers in this game whatsoever

Pagetop princess, now with guns

Pagetop princess beat me to the punch.

* I see it slightly more likely if Mafia got ahold of a radio and coordinated a transfer (maybe by Lucas, during the lynch on him, since they already had lost their chances?). I could picture a somewhat persuasive argument by maf ("Hey, grab the flamethrower, we'll make alignment 6:3 and have some fun. Spec will be a little reset if you join. We'll kill you either way.")

Also, on an unrelated note: Host just confirmed messages are not anonymous so if mafia attempted that plan, they'd run the risk of someone outing them in-thread and saying "wait why does this guy have the radio" if they tried this plan.

Which is why followed Lux's plan even through doing so left a bitter taste in my mouth and why I will follow her til the end of the game.

Meeting is about to start, and Boss man is outside.

@Naut. Yeah. If Lucas had radio, it might make sense as a final dying breath.

Though, even that mafplan wouldn't be as risk-free as I thought. Even "wait why does X have the radio" is a town-beneficial detail, in that it ties X to Eng on N0.

n☆util☆s wrote:Honestly if I were to talk about who would be most likely to be chaotic neutral and ditch a plan if they were town I would say it would be Tiki, but I am unsure whether or not Tiki would be an optimal target for a conversion or a kill

Dude, every single phase, you find a reason to list me as a suspect. XD

Although...I won't really deny that, yeah, causing trouble is something I tend to do, heh. But I'm not one for bailing on a team strategy, especially one that basically ensured victory. Believe it or not, I used to run dungeon crawls in WoW, so I know what it is to play by a plan (and the great feelings you get when it all comes together).

But...I mostly just think it's funny you pointed it out that way. XD I mean that, plus, "He's acting so Town, HE MUST BE MAFIA," I dunno, gone from slightly annoying to just being tickled by it, heh.

ANYWAY, hmm...the plan was 5 in one room, and 4 in another, right? Well, then a couple options come to mind:

1. Somebody left the Med Bay, and either they got Contaminated, or the two left in the room were Infected, and Contaminated the 3rd.
   
2. One or two people wandered from the Engine room, and one of them caught it, or two left and the 3rd was trapped with Infected.
   
3. Everybody but one person bailed from a particular room, and either they, or the one left alone, got caught.
   

I'm...not entirely sure where that leaves us, though (figuring that out is more Mitsu's, Kiyo, and Lux's specialty, heh). I think it's still safe to assume that Lux and Ezz are crew. Beyond that...maybe we should focus on the prior spec, instead of letting this new info confuse us? After all, with this new ratio it's potentially, uhm...MYLO is the mislynch and lose one, right?

But yeah, if we end up 5-3, it could potentially go to either 4-3 next "Day Phase"...or 4-4.

That said, I guess I'm most leaning toward Vowels. In the same room as Lucas, sided with him, and most importantly, voted to have me, lovable Tiki, incinerated.

But, as usual, gonna hold off until I hear more from everybody. And, despite her rudeness, I'm thinking we should vote Nautie for med bay?

I'm going to go back in time and focus a bit on n0
We still haven't figured out who converted that night and the answer might be in the details somewhere, I have no clue who the other orig maf was so yeah, I'd rather focus my spec on the convert from n0. I also admit I've taken no notes or anything so I'm not really sure which town is most likely to break away from the plan. So I'll start with my room:

Galley:
I'm town, Lucas was maf. I can't be convert...because I know I'm not. Lucas couldn't be convert because he was with me, a town, so he would've been incinerated. If there was someone else in this room then my ship task should've gone through, so I believe it was just me and Lucas. This means there was only one other mafia during these shenanigans. Of course if you choose not to believe me that also puts me on the possible convert list.

Armory:
Kiyo and Blaire, we know for sure Blaire was town, if Kiyo was convert then she would've been incinerated. Kiyo could still be the orig mafia but there's no way she's the convert.

Brig
Just Lux, who succeeded so we can assume the claim of being alone is true. We got her alignment so she couldn't have been convert

Capt Q
Just Dran, supposedly succeeded meaning Dran was alone. Could very easily then be converted (although Dran claimed late so it would've been easy to put themselves into another room if they had actually converted or were even orig mafia)

Med Bay
Ezz and Ninfia. We know Ninfia was town, therefor Ezz couldn't have been converted. Could still be orig mafia but isn't the convert. 

Cargo Hold
Alca, Nautilus, Tiki, Rasei. They all supposedly chose explore, meaning there were 2+ people in this room for that to fail. IF all four people were in this room then none of them could be the convert because there at most could've only been one maf in here. If just one had chosen ship task then it would've gone through, which it didn't. 

SO

Possible converts based on give on given info:
Dran
Aeiou (but I know for sure I'm not)

Any of the four in the cargo bay however could've easily lied.
Alca
Nauti
Tiki
Rasei

I really want to get my grocery shopping over with so I'm just going to leave this here. I'm not sure this even helps at all but for me, I at least know I'm not convert so that means for sure 1 out of these 5 people are mafia. Might also help anyone else on the list that knows they are town (Like I said there's still Kiyo and Ezz that could be orig mafia but they for sure weren't converts!)

My meeting is finally over but I been up almost 20 hours today so I'm sleeping now

Aeiou wrote:Tiki The Troll- Cargo holder(3rd to claim), was in the fuck up server room with me. I know I stayed, we know Lux left so either Lucas or Tiki left (or both) although we now know Lucas was maf so it could've been him. I was considering Tiki to be maf but I'm not really so sure

Since Lux left the room, that means only 1 other person could have left. Therefore, if we assume that both Lucas and I left, for some reason, that would mean the only reason the room didn't activate was because you left it too, did an explore, or didn't do an action at all.

Not saying you did any of those things, and I'm pretty sure you're not saying you did those things, just clearing that up, heh.

Tiki The Troll wrote:

Aeiou wrote:[size=13]Tiki The Troll- Cargo holder(3rd to claim), was in the fuck up server room with me. I know I stayed, we know Lux left so either Lucas or Tiki left (or both) although we now know Lucas was maf so it could've been him. I was considering Tiki to be maf but I'm not really so sure[/size

Since Lux left the room, that means only 1 other person could have left. Therefore, if we assume that both Lucas and I left, for some reason, that would mean the only reason the room didn't activate was because you left it too, did an explore, or didn't do an action at all.

Not saying you did any of those things, and I'm pretty sure you're not saying you did those things, just clearing that up, heh.

Oh! right, I overlooked that

Aeiou wrote:Oh! right, I overlooked that

No worries! The rules are kinda tricky, tripped up a lot of us this game it seems, heh.

So I'm fine lynching 
Rasei
Tiki?
Kiyo??
Ezz??

For alignment I do agree with Alca that it should be someone we trust more/specs more so we can tell we are more on the right track with things. ALTHOUGH I don't exactly think Dran is high on that list BUT they probably have the masterkey and I think it would clear up another suspect for me on my might be first convert list, I'd also feel better about the key thing.

SO I WILL
Vote: Rasei
Investigate: Dran


If you guys dont lynch me but still don't trust me then perhaps send me to EVA? I can still spec right? just not vote or leave on my own... then you can kind of sit on it longer. Up to you guys, I'd rather not die at all lmao but if that's what everyone thinks is best then I'll do it

I just had a nightmare where crew was suddenly at 3 and infected was six and us crew were hiding in the Med Bay. Then it was rollover and I forgot to send in my action. So here I am at 4am after going to bed after 1 on the thread. I wanna sleep but I don't want to have my brains eaten.

Aeiou wrote:
Rasei- Has been really odd? Picking things off dice. One of the people to claim being in Cargo hold(4th to claim), fucked up on if they did the ship task or explore. Other nights their rooms were successful. A lot of very quick posts that don't say much

Hey, the dice is not a new thing for me. I made a honest mistake while doing a quick post before sleep. You also seem to have forgotten something really, really important. I voted against Lucas first. I CAST THE FIRST VOTE LAST TIME. If I was really an infected, why vote against Lucas when I knew there was a good possibility I wouldn't be able to change my vote at the ren faire?

You on the other hand, were didn't vote against Lucas and even picked the same person as him (Tiki).

Also for those who were said that mafia probe me to change what I said on day one, I would have to say bullshit. There is only one person in the forum that has a way to contact me when I'm not at my computer, and that is Sammy. She is not mafia because she isn't even playing this game. I was working two jobs and had 45 minutes or so to eat between them. I even said before hand, hey I'm working a double and might not be able to post.

For now, my votes are staying exactly where they are at. I will make my big post later today after I reread this thread.

Alright, I didn't even realize that because as I stated, that whole spec had no basis on voting whatsoever. So I definitely missed that. Re: not voting Lucas, I was nervous because I KNEW he couldn't be the convert but he could've been orig maf(which he was). I guess I just felt awkward voting someone who might be able to confirm I wasn't convert. Leaving votes where they are right now until more spec comes in