lulu wrote:β: luxaria
- this is probably my most fuzzy thread b/c i haven't seen much spec or FOSing from anyone here... i'd honestly be happy voting for anyone which makes me additionally suspicious if this thread ends in a NL.
- i'm leaning towards lux b/c i feel like she'd be pressuring people more if she was town. i've only played one game with a town lux but i recall her being aggressive & energetic. i don't think i've seen her FOS a single person yet this game?
This is the second time you've said that. It's kind of frustrating because previously I tried to offer a more in-depth post after finally attempting to get invested in the thread, also around the time when you were saying something similar, but that post is being ignored here. In it I tried to voice thoughts on as many players as possible. Here's the most relevant parts to this discussion:
- Spoiler:
Luxaria wrote: I am not immediately suspicious of Lulu's speculation on D1, independent of her claim which came in while I re-read the thread.
I'm not getting a large enough read on anyone to back the lynch votes already out in the open. I saw some pointing at Aeiou (did I imagine it? I thought there were more votes on her), but amusingly she's been lynched early in every game she's played and been town in every single one... so I am tentatively disinclined towards her for the moment.
deo hasn't set off alarms just yet, nor do drandahl or Mitsu. Pan said he would be gone all phase, so I don't really like that he has a vote on him when he made it clear he wouldn't be around. That said, this vote comes from Rasei, who happens to have claimed fairly early the stunner role. That's up for interpretation, but she seems earnest.
Other thoughts: I feel like if we had an alignment investigative role they probably would have checked eleni (or Tet?) right about now, unless they saw no reason to doubt her claims. So the lack of votes on eleni does seem to vet her story, but doesn't count for an alignment checker wishing to remain anonymous.
Otherwise, general thoughts... I'm not sure how to interpret the majority of people commenting on the nature of late voters on D1, since there seems to be sizable discussion to that end. I didn't see much wrong with chinomi's comment, as drandahl did, just as I find Lucas' reasoning for looking into those 7 - 10 players as reasonable (Lucas seems... tentatively more townish than not)
I am also a bit perplexed in hindsight by alca's vote on me when Five's comment could be nothing other than an inside joke--and also why she voted me instead of Five, considering Five made the comment, but she wanted me to explain it. That said, her focus on assembling and collecting information makes me less interested in probing her for now.
If I went down the list of players based on activity, I don't remember plotstickers, Duck (Entelechy), and Mr. Gerbear offering all that much.
plot posted a gif, and Mr. Gerbear said they forgot to send a role action in (... I feel like this happened in Gakuen S2, too?) and voted drandahl, I think in response to bringing up the chinomi comment. Which isn't unfair. Hmm. I'm more inclined towards activity voting than getting rid of someone like lulu right now, especially given recent claims. Not feeling the deo vote just yet, and I already stated my hesitation on Aeiou.
I voted plotstickers last day phase given everything I listed above. People on this board know I favor activity and policy lynching early on in the game. I am still unsure how I feel about how D2 unfolded, given how it was a mess and we never quite got closure on the events, and now we're in whatever the hell this is. Lucas seems to be suggesting Mitsu is town. Tentatively, I want to wait until the thread(s) merge and arrive at more clarity before I dig through everything that happened D2 and arrive at consensus. This also goes for the current four threads in that I want to review them once they're closed, of which I am considering setting up documents where I arrange
every post between the four threads in chronological order and tag them by their corresponding thread. This is just for my own personal book keeping. I probably won't do that, but whatever is going on now just irritates me on a fundamental level.
So to that end, at the start of the phase I pointed out:
Luxaria wrote: I don't really care to see any of these players lynched right now, but that'd also mean potentially several days of not seeing an alignment flip other than neutral (ignoring whatever happened with Mitsu), so I don't know.
Idk. It just sucks because if this thread is chosen, none of the people in it really feel worthy of much attention compared to some of the discussions/results in other threads as they pertain to the last day phase... but another day of no lynch. Meh. Also pretty frustrating to even consider trying to interrogate / speculate about the candidates in other threads.
Bear in mind this sentiment is not unique to myself:
Ardonye wrote:Not looking at other thread candidates yet because I'm so confused about what's going to happen. HONESTLY I. am more suspicious of people not in this thread but they aren't in this thread. WHAT DO
I read through the posts of all four other members in my thread in a vacuum--as in, I didn't dig through the main thread and compare what they were responding to or the context. Which changes things, obviously, but I'm really not in the mood to dig through that thread right now. Thus, observations with the aforementioned caveat of context:
Ardonye: Least suspicious in this thread. Seems to be pro-town in playstyle, though I do notice that her general mannerisms and typing styles seem different from how I remember them in the two (or three?) games she's played here before. Those were quite a while ago. I don't know her as well as some other players here to judge off of personality. By the way, this is why I early on said I was town leaning on Lulu and Lucas, for example, because I've been trying to utilize gut reads more heavily to augment my playstyle. Which means trying to understand the player, not just what they say. But anyway. Not looking at Ardonye all that much.
ezzelin: I appreciate the effort she's put into her typing quirk (and tbh I hate typing quirks and ignore them when they're used on me), but it's made digging through most of her posts rather... difficult. There's so much flavor (as in, writing flavor) rather than content that it's hard to really dig through what she's saying. She seems to have a focus on deo, as indicated by the much more clear chef's notes in her recent posts.
I'm... not exactly sure what she's seeing with regards to deo's quote. I thought his statement was reasonable, because with, what, 22 players and a ghost Mitsu lurking between these four threads, with 6 mafia that means it's probable and statistically likely that there's going to be one per thread, at the very least. Which is something ezzelin even said:
ezzelin wrote:I firmly believe the mafia are distributed more or less evenly among the threads, which means 1/5 or 2/5 chance of hitting mafia even with a random vote
Can ezzelin explain why exactly she's suspecting deo over his comment? Because it sounded like just a general statement of "I can't see a thread having no mafia because that's so incredibly unfair to town", which is reasonable, and it being misunderstood reminds me of Blaire (Mr. Alice) having her posts misinterpretted (like happened earlier in this game, actually).
But for deo, then, out of the four of you, this was the only statement I felt the need to bring up:
deo wrote:but uh... not going to lie if someone's going to be lynched for no reason i'm probably a better choice
Is there more you can say to this end, like your role isn't vital/crucial, or are you just apathetic, or? I'm just curious because if you stand by this and there's nothing else to go on, by your own admission you wouldn't be the worst one for this thread to vote on, given the situation. Further reinforced by:
deo wrote:what reaction, the one where i said i didn't really care if i ended up the lynch target? i mean i still don't really
So I guess I'm mainly just curious of...
1. What points are people raising against deo, specifically?
and
2. deo, do you really not care if you get lynched? And regarding the people you mentioned for each thread: What are your thoughts on Sammiya?
For that matter
Sammiya: I don't have any read on her because after digging through her posts... though she's been present, the most she's said is she wouldn't vote for a few of the people that were more or less town-sounding due to discussion in thread. Her personality this game is textbook Sammiya, though, which she always flies under the radar with as any alignment. Sammie, do you have any thoughts or opinions on this thread or the others right now?
I'm going to decline commenting on the other threads right now, though I'd be most interested in throwing lynches on less active players because that's what I do.
As for myself, if you're still curious why I'm not really as "energetic" as usual, the honest truth is that to me this game isn't Town vs Mafia, but rather Lux vs Role. I don't really want to get into the details right now. It's just really hurting my investment, both mentally and emotionally, into this game, and between all the quirks and ridiculousness--which distract and irritate me--I'm just not amused.
So anyway, there's my reads. Ship it.
Edit: Nye posted while I typed this. Going to read it in the meanwhile, as well as review and assess the people that got stunned and jailed each night.
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