welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4]

goat rally.

No Lynch: I
drandahl: VII
deo: I
Mr. Alice: II
plotstickers: I
AliceofOz: I
T3tsuya: I
Tiki the Troll: I

high seraph vs. deo drandahl
Kiyoko vs. Mr. Alice
Luxaria vs. drandahl
Sammiya vs. T3tsuya
AliceofOz vs.
alcasync vs. AliceofOz
Mr. Alice vs. drandahl
T3tsuya vs. Mr. Alice
Tiki the Troll vs. Rasei deo
Rasei vs. no vote
drandahl vs.
plotstickers vs. drandahl
eleni vs. drandahl
deo vs. drandahl
chinomi vs. drandahl
Ardonye vs. Tiki the Troll
Ninfia vs. no lynch
Kotakia vs. plotstickers

re: votes - I'm going to say that if you bold a vote and it's a vote for someone in this game (so: not like a clearly indicated joke vote for a purple elephant or something), it will count, even if you switch targets without unvoting.

Final rule on votes:

• All votes that are bolded count.
  
• Only one vote change permitted per phase.
  

Oh christ, why is it just me and 11 guests on the forum at this hour

omfg this thread got hilarious after i left lmao. I'm glad there isn't a tie atm so I can keep my vote as is while I reread the last few posts brb

I'm going to vote: No vote:. I don't feel comfortable on voting on Mr.Alice why he cannot talk, Dran was apparently out last night. I heading to work and will not be able to vote closerto rollover

Also, if half of the thread agrees to this activity rule then I'll apply it. So far I've received a yay from high seraph and alcasync, but that's a ninth of the thread lmao

I was considering retroactively creating one (I've been fond of them in the past, not sure why it slipped my mind this time) because this has the potential to be a long game, and I don't want people to drop out prematurely, though I have faith that everyone will be active until the end and so I dunno if we actually need one.

The kind of activity rule I'd be thinking of is that you have to submit a vote (that isn't no vote) at least every other day phase, and if you go without voting for 2 days in a row and don't give me a reason beforehand, the following night your room movement and power will be disabled for the next night until you vote again. If this sounds acceptable to the majority of you (or fair), I'll implement it.

I think the people online scared away the 11 guests, thanks everyone

Kiyoko wrote:Maybe I'm reading too deeply into all of this and this is just Tiki being Tiki as per usual, in which case I'd like someone to to offer their genuine outside opinion.

Honestly if we didn't have the current candidates that we do now, I would find this highly suspect. If their post was ninja'd you get the whole ~are you sure you would like to post this because someone else posted~ and you can review your post. So why include it at all? Especially when you know there is only one vote change in the game?

At the moment I'd rather not deo be lynched since the reasons behind voting him seem really weak:

high seraph wrote:I'm gonna go ahead and vote: deo just to put out a vote

Tiki the Troll wrote:Ninja'd: Well, so much for not tipping the balance. XD So, crap, uh, to even it out... vote: deo?

And I don't even see deo as town yet, just indefinite. I guess I'd rather see someone else lynched.

So I'm going to vote: Tiki the Troll because I would rather not vote on someone who is currently silenced and I find how they've been jumping around on who to vote really suspect. Granted, if you are town, of course you'd be unsure since you don't know who the mafia are but I would like to think it would make you more cautious? OKAY I don't know if I'm wording how I feel about this right but basically as someone totally new to the forum, this kind of thing sets off alarms for me orz

I still have a vote change left fortunately, so we'll see how it goes. My icon's eyes may be closed.... BUT I AM WATCHING!!!! <O><O>

Edit due to ninjas: I'm fine with the activity rule, doesn't make much of a difference to me.

Oh yeah, I should thank deo & alca for the clarification about the room-locker, although I think that makes a really funny jailer role... Either way, I'm going to hold off on voting against plot since A) message-sender is a seemingly town role, especially when used like this and B) i forgot what was reason number B so let's just go with A for now lmao

In response to nye's vote (hi!! Nye!!!!), Tiki the Troll's weird vote on deo is really scummy tbh but at the same time I feel like mafia would coordinate better and not... Let Tiki... Say something... So scummy...............

Also I agree with nye that deo is a weak lynch candidate, the reason behind the votes on him are literally non-existent. Out of all the people who have been voted, I'm most comfortable with Mr Alice (even tho waiting wouldnt really harm us imo) and drandahl, who hasnt really said anything to defend themselves??? And if drandahl is mafia, idk if any of their teammates would be willing or capable of saying anything to defend them at this point, which would explain why no one seems to be strongly against this lynch

Ok with that in mind I'm gonna unvote: deo, vote: drandahl. We'll get more info out of this lynch: If drandahl flips town, we look into the bandwagon on them for the mafs (which includes me i Guess), if they flip mafia, we look onto the rest of the ppl, especially those who havent voted or contributed.

Foot in mouth if drandahl flips maf but this bandwagon on someone who confirmed did not send in the NK...

Heading out to work so I can be at a desk for rollover, but to be honest, anyone who says "I won't vote for Mr. Alice so that she gets a chance to say something" and then immediately turns around and votes drandahl for being AFK is a hypocrite. I'm not particularly defending drandahl because I actually kind of want to systematically policy lynch all of the inactive/non-contributing players like some sort of highly efficient fascist government, just pointing out how weak a reason (out of all possible reasons) it is.

I don't even know if switching my vote will make a difference at this point but I honestly do want to see what alignment drandahl flips, if only because it'll give us information about this bandwagon.

Edit: This highly efficient mafia fascist regime is in favor of an activity rule.

Link to the 24a Role List

What we know so far:

Room Claims:

Roles that Exist:

what the I was not expecting an actual bandwagon on drandahl. I was hoping for a closer lynch between him and Mr. Alice tbh since I didn't feel strongly about anyone... This does not bode well

Also yeah I'm fine with the activity rule!

squeezes in 30 minutes before the grace period because I fell asleep immediately last night and didn't set an alarm.

okay!!! so I am thinking that... I'm very partial to Nye's reasoning. it seems logical to me. Also to sort of pump it up, it's not as if the other maf members are going to proof read every comment that every person makes. the mafia is a team sure, but they're still individual players trying to survive.

that being said... I think the best vote for me right now is Vote: No lynch

I said this was my intention from the start of this phase, partially because I'm still getting some traction in mafia again, and partially because there are a lot of things flying around right now that I'm trying to wrap my head around. for clarity's sake, I would probably vote for Tiki if I were not so uncertain because of Nye's argument.

I also don't think that my vote will make a particularly large difference, given the votes on drandahl, who I'm not particularly inclined to vote for because I think inactivity lynches on day 2 are a lil........ idk.

I've gotta head into work now though so I suppose I'll weigh in after the roll over! oh, and I am also good with the activity rule.

(whispers there is no grace period in the day phase because i don't have to deal with 18 people sending in room movements, you're good)

okkkkkk i didn't really want to start a bandwagon on drandahl but welp here we are

*After seeing Kiyo's post just after waking up, tearing into his panicked, nervous post from the night before, Tiki plans to make a post to express his confusion and attempt a defense. But lo, after he connects he can't find the reply button! Going to the mobile site, just in case, he note can't find the PM button as well! Panicked and nervous, even more than before, he refreshes e pages, hoping they'll appear! And just when he's about to give up, be notices...the site logged him out.

He this signs in and posts of his shame, quietly reflecting on the fingers pointed at him, and his inability to reply and think rationally, he wonders what he wonders every round...

"Am I too stupid to play this game?"

He weeps.*

~fin

Hey Tiki, now that you're here, why don't you actually address why you voted the way you did? Because according to Nye and Ninfia's posts, I'm not the only person who found it scummy.

Edit: Also this is entirely unrelated but Lucas, you have amazing taste in games.

Kiyoko wrote:Hey Tiki, now that you're here, why don't you actually address why you voted the way you did? Because according to Nye and Ninfia's posts, I'm not the only person who found it scummy.

I noticed, that's why there was panic in my story (and I'm only just now on an actual break, to answer that question).

Well, I'll first say I'm confused. I said that I'd wanted to keep it fairly even, so I had to vote for deo or the Alice duo. I changed my mind on Mr. Alice, mostly from Sammie's post, and I didn't feel right voting for Alice of Oz, given she's busy.

I would have been reluctant to vote for dran too, since I know he's often busy and didn't post till later (this is something you even confirmed, at least as far as him being preoccupied). And that just kinda left deo by default, and he was the one who rocked the vote boat anyway, so...why not?

As for the format of that first post, I'd seen others mention getting ninja posted, changing their mind, and just leaving a note on why while keeping the old text, so, I honestly didn't think it was a big deal... Was just trying to be honest and open, really.

Though I really do need to learn to say less...how many times has Town killed me for that now, regardless of alignment? Heh... *facedesk*

But I guess the greatest part of my confusion is all the people who are saying they're leaving a vote before bed, or whatever, despite some uncertainty, and also saying they don't mind having a tie to give people choices (you even closed, saying you liked having a tie between Mr. Blaire, drab, and deo, right? Err, did I misread that?).

I try to do both, and...that's bad?