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Ok alca so you don't actually lock yourself in you just lock whatever you want lmao
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welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4]
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chinomi
Kotakia
deo
eleni
plotstickers
drandahl
Cthulhuhoop
T3tsuya
Rasei
Tiki The Troll
Mr. Alice
alcasync
AliceofOz
Sammiya
Kiyoko
nautilus
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767 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:31 am
Sammiya
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Yep, yep, alca's my roomie now! And I didn't have a role pm ready to go because both of my abilities are passive.
I'm inclined to completely believe alca is town from being the leading lyncher on chinomi.
I'm inclining to vote for eleni as well.
I'm inclined to completely believe alca is town from being the leading lyncher on chinomi.
I'm inclining to vote for eleni as well.
768 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:34 am
alcasync
nvn
If it helps, I've been trying to avoid locking the rooms of people I think are town so that they can move and act freely at night, but if anyone is okay with being locked in (like if they're vanilla or have a role where they don't need to move) then let me know and I can try to use it as a protect, too.
If it helps, I've been trying to avoid locking the rooms of people I think are town so that they can move and act freely at night, but if anyone is okay with being locked in (like if they're vanilla or have a role where they don't need to move) then let me know and I can try to use it as a protect, too.
769 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:36 am
Kiyoko
Admin
nautilus wrote:stoat alley.
eleni: I
high seraph vs.
Luxaria vs.
Sammiya vs.
AliceofOz vs.
alcasync vs. eleni
Mr. Alice vs.
T3tsuya vs.
Tiki the Troll vs.
Rasei vs.
plotstickers vs.
eleni vs.
deo vs.
Ardonye vs.
Ninfia vs.
Kotakia vs.
770 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:37 am
Luxaria
Ninfia wrote:My role relies on me being alone in a room. because I was asleep during rollover, I was unfortunately randomized in my movement, and thus had a roommate in Room 9. I don't know anything about what happens in the rooms, I can only really tell if they're occupied.
Can you disarm traps like Kotakia described?
Ninfia wrote:I am going to come forward at this point and say that the room destroying role is NOT Neutral. as I have been insisting in the last 3 or so posts of mine.
I'm inclined to agree with you (I've rambled about it previously), but do you have any information to that end?
alcasync wrote: but if anyone is okay with being locked in (like if they're vanilla or have a role where they don't need to move) then let me know and I can try to use it as a protect, too.
But how can we tell you if we can't pre-plan room movements D:
771 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:40 am
alcasync
Luxaria wrote:alcasync wrote: but if anyone is okay with being locked in (like if they're vanilla or have a role where they don't need to move) then let me know and I can try to use it as a protect, too.
But how can we tell you if we can't pre-plan room movements D:
I don't want to break any rules by asking people to claim future movements, but I can guess based on past room claims where people might end up. My action takes priority over moving so I don't have to worry about anyone leaving a room I think they might be in, if that makes sense?
Umm but mostly I just want to know who is okay being locked in a room in the general sense.
772 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:42 am
Luxaria
Link to the 24a Role List
- What we know so far:
NIGHT THREE/DAY FOUR- rollover: chinomi was lynched! They were the PRINCIPAL. They were MAFIA.
- rollover: The phase has prematurely ended!
- rollover: There was a kill attempt on a room, but it failed!
- rollover: A trap has been dismantled!
NIGHT TWO/DAY THREE- rollover: Room 26 was locked.
- rollover: Mafia (presumably) either targeted the locked room, or they targeted a room with two players in it. In any case, no one died.
- rollover: Kiyoko has been killed in Room 4. She was the STUDENT. She was TOWN.
- rollover: Room 4 has been destroyed and cannot be entered on future nights.
- rollover: Some creepy thing appears to have been put in play. Result of "sacrificial lamb" being killed (Kiyoko?).
- Mr. Alice: Claimed a role that starts out vanilla but can copy the power of a dead player. - Seems like she might copy Drandahl, the Hunter/Vigilante (?) - Seems like she can't immediately utilize the role she copies, but appears to have knowledge of the role already (?).
- Mr. Alice: Says the Hunter role is a standard bullet kill. Is it night or day or both, and is it instant? Not sure?
- Kiyoko: THE STUDENT was on the role list and claims she could only use it on people in her room. Alcasync proposes investigative/detective and notes that Kiyoko thinks Ardonye is town.
- alcasync: Rasei didn't send in the room destruction (vigilante kill) or the NK.
- Kotakia: There is a one shot "Choose the player, not the room" vigilante role out there. Once used, every 2 nights without a kill a room will be destroyed. Last night must've been the one shot vig kill because if successful, the room is destroyed.
- Ninfia: 12 rooms were occupied. Room 4 was not included.
- plotstickers: Sent Chi one line from a Frozen song. "Was meant to be more" but needs to confirm something first ? ** Clarification for a previous phase.
- plotstickers: "I don't think Chi targeted room 8 on night zero."
- It appears the trap from N1 was not triggered. If not activated, it will expire at the end of N3.
NIGHT ONE/DAY TWO- rollover: There is a silencing role.
- rollover: Mr. Alice was silenced N0
- rollover: No message about NK, implies a trap might have been laid.
- rollover: Room 1 was locked. If a trap was laid, it was not laid in Room 1.
- Kiyoko: Kiyoko's role is on the 24a role list, but she can only use it on people she shares a room with.
- Kiyoko: Has a different "Good Morning" PM format than most people as part of her role.
- alcasync: alca's role has a similar name to a name on the 24a list but with the ability of a different role.
- alcasync: alca knows the full role description for the room locking role.
- chinomi: There is a message sending role in play.
- chinomi: chinomi received a letter on N1.
- Sammiya: Something similar to Sammie's role is on the 24a list.
- Kotakia: Kotakia's role is "kinda??? on your list. but just barely in what it does."
- AliceofOz: Alice's role is on the list.
- Luxaria: Lux's role "both is and is not on Kiyoko's list."
- high seraph: Role name is on the list but the ability is different.
- high seraph: Can use his role's information to get around the hotel safely.
- The following players claimed a role not on the 24a list: Rasei, Ninfia, T3tsuya, eleni, Tiki The Troll
- Known players who were paired up and therefore could not have sent in the NK: Kotakia + Ardonye, alcasync + drandahl, eleni + T3tsuya
NIGHT ZERO/DAY ONE- rollover: There is a role that locks doors.
- rollover: Room 7 was locked last night.
- rollover: Mafia (presumably) either targeted the locked room, or they targeted a room with two players in it. In any case, no one died.
- nautilus clarification: If the NK "fails" then that means no trap is laid. So assuming the kill attempt was the NK, there is currently no trap set.
- nautilus clarification: If the NK sender is roleblocked, the NK will not appear in rollover at all.
- Kotakia: There is a watcher role in play who can also disarm traps.
- Kiyoko: Kiyoko is not currently inclined to think that Ardonye is mafia.
- alcasync: A locked room blocks actions targeted to the room and prevents players from leaving or entering the room.
- alcasync: A room is only locked for one night.
- Ninfia: 14 rooms had occupants
- Assuming alca is telling the truth about all of that, then alca did not send in the NK last night.
- rollover: chinomi was lynched! They were the PRINCIPAL. They were MAFIA.
- Room Claims:
NIGHT THREE
9: Ninfia + ???
12: high seraph
18: Luxaria
19: Kotakia + T3tsuya
26: AliceofOz + Rasei
??: alcasync + Sammiya
T3tsuya was in the same room on N1 and N2, presumably.
AliceofOz was in the same room on N1 and N2, presumably.
NIGHT TWO
3: Ninfia
10: Sammiya
11: empty (according to high seraph)
12: high Seraph
18: Luxaria + AliceofOz (<33)
19: Kotakia (alone?)
20: empty (according to Kotakia)
22: alcasync
26: Rasei (alone?) [LOCKED: alcasync]
??: Tiki the Troll + Ardonye
??: Deo + Mr. Alice
??: T3tsuya + ???
??: plotstickers (alone)
Kotakia claims either 18 or 20 (or both) were empty
Rasei claims trying to move to room 23 but got bounced back or locked in.
T3tsuya claims to have stayed in the same room as N1.
Ninfia tried to move to 26, but it was locked.
T3tsuya claims that Tiki was in a room with Ardonye (which both of them confirmed)
chinomi claims she would give anything away to be able to reveal roommates, but cannot.
AliceofOz claims she has never shared a room with chinomi on any night.
Lux Note:
A)
8 players paired up as roommates, 3 claimed solos, and 5 unaccounted for:
3 claimed solos, 5 unaccounted solos, and 4 claimed pairings = 12 rooms.
B)
6 players paired up as roommates, 3 claimed solos, 6 unaccounted for, and 1 stealth:
3 claimed solos, 6 unaccounted solos, 3 claimed pairings, 1 stealth (in another room) = 12 rooms
Could be other variations with more stealth (one for each side?).
NIGHT ONE
1: chinomi + ??? [LOCKED: alcasync]
3: Ninfia
6: Luxaria
8: Mr. Alice
9: Sammiya
10: High Seraph
11: empty (according to High Seraph)
18: AliceofOz (presumably, based on RNG move)
21: deo
22: alcasync + drandahl
26: Rasei (alone)
??: Kotakia + Ardonye
??: eleni + T3tsuya
??: plotstickers (alone)
Kiyoko was probably alone since she didn't have results to share.
NIGHT ZERO
1: chinomi + ???
2: Sammiya (alone)
6: Luxaria (alone)
7: alcasync (alone) [LOCKED: alcasync]
8: Mr. Alice
10: empty (according to High Seraph)
11: High Seraph
13: plotstickers + deo
24: Rasei (alone)
26: empty (according to Kotakia)
27: Kotakia (alone)
??: Kiyoko + Ardonye
T3tsuya claims Tiki was in a room with eleni
Alcasync thinks drandahl was in room 22 on N0 since it was his starting room and he was there N1, too.
Ninfia did not room with anyone, she claims, else her role would not have worked.
- Roles that Exist:
Locksmith - Alcasync's role
Locks a room at night, can act on consecutive nights
alcasync: Prevents players from targeting locked room, prevents players from entering and leaving locked room.
alcasync: Locking a room has priority over movement.
alcasync: You can still target players in a locked room, just not the room itself.
alcasync: "I'm the locksmith and I can lock myself in a room, I just can't target the same room twice in a row."
alcasync: "I can lock independently from movement, and I am the only person who can enter or exit a room on the same night it's locked! (I can't enter a room if there are already two people inside though, of course.)"
Silencer - Prevents a player from posting with the exception of their vote.
Watcher who can disarm traps (according to Kotakia)
Kotakia: "But we know it's Ninfia (at least, she seems to be going along with being that role and dropped hints on it). The role involves: seeing all rooms that were acted on at night and then they can choose to disarm traps (i am unsure if it is a one use or every time)"
Watcher v2? - Ninfia's role
Ninfia: "My role relies on me being alone in a room. because I was asleep during rollover, I was unfortunately randomized in my movement, and thus had a roommate in Room 9. I don't know anything about what happens in the rooms, I can only really tell if they're occupied."
Message sender (according to chinomi)
chinomi: Possibly plotstickers, due to sending an inside joke-related message.
Plotstickers has claimed it.
Post-mortem copy machine (claimed by Mr. Alice)
Mr. Alice claims she copied Drandahl's role.
See Hunter section.
The Student - Kiyoko's role, town. Appears to be investigative based off of room occupants.
One-shot vigilante / room destruction (according to Kotakia)
Kotakia:
Choose player one-shot vigilante kill.
Destroys room if successful.
Once used, regardless of success, a random room is destroyed every two nights without a kill.
Kotakia thinks it works like: N1 No NK - N2 No NK - N3 ROOM DESTRUCTION (not sure?)
Kiyoko [might have/must have] been killed by this and, as the "sacrificial lamb", summoned a shadow-demon thing that will destroy rooms in the future if conditions are met (?).
alcasync: Rasei did not do this.
Kotakia's Information Gathering Role
Kotakia: "nope, no role names or player names, just [random] role information. My role involves a specific player combination in my room and the rooms beside me for me to gather any information. When it's a specific way, I get information. If not, I get nothing."
Kotakia: Cannot move the same night as the kill.
There's some speculation over whether or not the "sacrificial lamb" role is tied to the vigilante role described by Kotakia. Some have floated both this vigilante and the lamb role as being either neutral or mafia.
Hunter - Vigilante - Drandahl's role, supposedly copied by Mr. Alice
Mr. Alice claims that it's a "standard bullet where you can shoot a person". Seems unsure if it's instant (as in, the shot triggers immediately).
Can only be used at night.
Stuck with it for the rest of the game.
Sammiya's Role
May not share any information since it may influence movements.
Half of power is that she is told at the end of the night phase if the rooms on either side of her have traps.
NOT the trap disarmer mentioned by Kotakia. Just detects traps on either side.
Birdkeeper - high seraph
Carries around bird cages with him every night.
May place the bird cage on either the right or left side of the room.
If there is activity in the neighboring room to that side, the birds will alert him.
Seems to be only if someone moves in or out of the room. He is not alerted if someone stays in the same room multiple nights in a row.
high seraph: "Update about my role: literally ANYTHING that happens inside the room will scare my birds because they're very sensible creatures. 1 bird will fly away for every person who 1) targets the room, 2) enters the room during that phase, 3) and they will also get scared by people who have spent several nights in the room. They detect EVERYTHING that might possibly happen in a room.
Also I have a lot of birds."
The Musician - Luxaria's role.
Once per game, prematurely end the night phase.
All actions received prior are valid; all received afterwards are nullified.
Skipped nights count as a regular night.
The Principal - Claimed as Chinomi's role.
chinomi: "i'm sort of like a reverse-voodoo role (is that what these roles are called? please let me know). i can target a room each night and if the room i chose contains a SINGLE mafia member then they can only post gibberish the next day so i can find mafia members if i AIM RIGHT AND TRUE"
chinomi: targeted rooms N0: #8; N1: #27; N2: #16
Only works if mafia is alone in the room.
- D4 Vote Timestamps:
- 9:03 alcasync vs eleni
- D3 Vote Timestamps:
- 9:31 alcasync vs Chinomi
19:44 Luxaria vs chinomi
21:53 T3tsuya vs chinomi
23:04 eleni vs chinomi
2:10 Ardonye vs eleni
2:18 high seraph vs chinomi
2:56 Mr. Alice vs eleni
3:10 Sammiya vs high seraph
3:13 chinomi vs high seraph
3:27 high seraph vs Sammiya
4:42 AliceofOz vs chinomi
6:00 Rasei vs chinomi
7:37 deo vs chinomi
7:38 Tiki the Troll vs chinomi
8:33 plotstickers vs chinomi
8:59 Sammiya vs chinomi
- D2 Vote Timestamps:
- 12:15 alcasync vs AliceofOz
16:32 high seraph vs deo
16:46 eleni vs drandahl
19:36 T3tsuya vs Mr. Alice
19:42 Kotakia vs plotstickers
20:02 deo vs drandahl
20:08 Tiki vs deo
20:59 Sammiya vs T3tsuya
00:38 Kiyoko vs Mr. Alice
01:12 chinomi vs drandahl
01:13 plotstickers vs drandahl
01:33 Mr. Alice vs drandahl
05:43 Luxaria vs drandahl
06:18 Rasei vs no vote
06:32 Ardonye vs. Tiki The Troll
06:52 high seraph vs drandahl
07:54 Ninfia vs no lynch
08:56 drandahl vs no lynch
Last edited by Luxaria on Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:48 am; edited 4 times in total
774 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:47 am
Luxaria
Ninfia wrote:My role relies on me being alone in a room. because I was asleep during rollover, I was unfortunately randomized in my movement, and thus had a roommate in Room 9. I don't know anything about what happens in the rooms, I can only really tell if they're occupied.
Also, I was unable to room with anyone night 0, and I was not Chinomi's roommate then at least? I'm not sure if that information is still relevant, but. there it is.
Hmmm.
So your role works every night that you are alone in your room, correct? Why did you not post room counts on N1? Unless I missed it.
What room were you in on N0?
Also, are you told the room numbers of the rooms that are occupied?
@ Alca: I am literally vanilla town now, so that's up to you.
775 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:53 am
Kotakia
going to repost what i got from that PM about the watcher.
* Someone who can see all the rooms that are visited every night!
* thing i'm not posting so i can pressure anyone who claims this is them
* can erase traps
* Someone who can see all the rooms that are visited every night!
* thing i'm not posting so i can pressure anyone who claims this is them
* can erase traps
776 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:54 am
eleni
ok so i want to address the suspicion on me first
firstly, at the bottom of the first post you quoted me from, i said that i would probably be most comfortable voting drandahl, plot, or deo that day. at the point i voted, there was one vote on both deo and AliceofOz. posts were moving really slowly in the forum and i wanted to get an initial vote in to hopefully move the discussion forward, which as you noted, didn't happen. although i didn't want to spread votes, i also didn't have strong enough of a feeling about deo to place a second vote for him, hence my vote on drandahl.
spreading votes was less important to me than potentially starting a bandwagon on deo, and town always gets more information from a closer lynch than just having all the votes be put on one person. again, that obviously didn't happen, but that was my original intent lol.
lastly, at the point of my last post you quoted, we had two votes on drandahl, deo, Mr. Alice, and one vote on plot, AliceofOz, and T3tsuya. i didn't change my vote to deo becuase i didn't want to be responsible for changing the status quo and swinging the votes. again, like i said, i didn't have any strong feelings on deo or drandahl in particular so i had no reason to change my vote and therefore the tie between those three. so i'm really not sure how exactly that's a contradictory statement? it's not like i thought deo was super suspicious or wanted to push a lynch on him
and Tiki was honestly not as suspicious to me as he was to you. like i said before, i have a hard time reading both his and Rasei's behavior so i just wrote off his "scummy" behavior lol.
anyhow i legitimately have work to catch up on today, so even though i'll be online for the most part i won't be able to check this thread all the time. i'll be back later if anyone has questions for me though
also super confused about the whole Sammie/high seraph thing since i've been skimming but i'll re-read later and just take everyone's word for it atm lol
Ardonye wrote:Looking back at the voting in D2. We didn't have as much information as this phase, so I wanted in particular to focus on the early votes because from my experience, early voting (even with multiple vote changes) can be used by mafia to avoid being seen as someone who bandwagons. Townies are also often hesitant without any clear suspects/little information. At the moment I don't suspect alcasync because they just seem to be an early voter, but I'm starting to wonder if eleni is mafia. Why?
Well, eleni states that:
- Spoiler:
Sammiya
Tiki The Troll
Rasei
drandahl
plotstickers
deoNo discussion is moved forward and drandahl ends up getting lynched due to inactivity. eleni specifically says they'd vote for deo, but didn't want to spread votes, but also didn't want to push a second vote on him? eleni also later sayseleni wrote:ok you know what
for the sake of moving discussion forward: vote: drandahl
definitely open to changing my vote, just want to throw something out there. i didn't want to spread votes, but i also don't want to push a second vote on Alice or deoWhich contradicts the earlier post and let's not forget Tiki the Troll was acting pretty scummy?eleni wrote:i also don't have anyone else i want to vote tbh lol
There is a sudden bandwagon of votes on drandahl after a three-way tie between Mr. Alice, deo and drandahl. This leads me to believe deo can potentially be mafia, along with eleni, plotstickers and also potentially people who have associated with them via room claims.
firstly, at the bottom of the first post you quoted me from, i said that i would probably be most comfortable voting drandahl, plot, or deo that day. at the point i voted, there was one vote on both deo and AliceofOz. posts were moving really slowly in the forum and i wanted to get an initial vote in to hopefully move the discussion forward, which as you noted, didn't happen. although i didn't want to spread votes, i also didn't have strong enough of a feeling about deo to place a second vote for him, hence my vote on drandahl.
spreading votes was less important to me than potentially starting a bandwagon on deo, and town always gets more information from a closer lynch than just having all the votes be put on one person. again, that obviously didn't happen, but that was my original intent lol.
lastly, at the point of my last post you quoted, we had two votes on drandahl, deo, Mr. Alice, and one vote on plot, AliceofOz, and T3tsuya. i didn't change my vote to deo becuase i didn't want to be responsible for changing the status quo and swinging the votes. again, like i said, i didn't have any strong feelings on deo or drandahl in particular so i had no reason to change my vote and therefore the tie between those three. so i'm really not sure how exactly that's a contradictory statement? it's not like i thought deo was super suspicious or wanted to push a lynch on him
and Tiki was honestly not as suspicious to me as he was to you. like i said before, i have a hard time reading both his and Rasei's behavior so i just wrote off his "scummy" behavior lol.
anyhow i legitimately have work to catch up on today, so even though i'll be online for the most part i won't be able to check this thread all the time. i'll be back later if anyone has questions for me though
also super confused about the whole Sammie/high seraph thing since i've been skimming but i'll re-read later and just take everyone's word for it atm lol
777 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:03 am
Ninfia
Admin
If I happen upon a room with a trap in my travels, it gets swept up like everything else in the room. I keep a very orderly house, you know. as for not posting a room count that day, tbh I don't want to tip my hand too eagerly, I suppose. I think I used some bad wording in describing it but it is very much better for me to be alone in a room. I suppose I should just say that I'm pretty sure Kotakia knows my entire role so there's no point in any cloak and daggers for me. There were 11 rooms occupied last night, and I was in room 9 with another person.
tbh I don't really want to reveal everything about my role, because it seems like Kotakia knows a lot about it and I think I'd like to save it in case of an emergency for me? Again, I don't want to tip my hand too eagerly and harm myself.
tbh I don't really want to reveal everything about my role, because it seems like Kotakia knows a lot about it and I think I'd like to save it in case of an emergency for me? Again, I don't want to tip my hand too eagerly and harm myself.
778 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:13 am
Luxaria
That's fine. I was just more or less curious if you agreed with it being the role Kotakia described. Which you seem to be doing? Just helps with process of elimination. I'll update the list... eventually...
disclaimer, I may end up passing out for a few hours during this phase. I think I've done nothing but refresh this thread for 16 hours straight at this point.
help.
edit: I think there are 1-2 stealthers in the game and the math supports it, sort of. I want to see more room claims and when I wake upo I'll try to post it all up and make it legible or somethinzzzzzzzzzzz
disclaimer, I may end up passing out for a few hours during this phase. I think I've done nothing but refresh this thread for 16 hours straight at this point.
help.
edit: I think there are 1-2 stealthers in the game and the math supports it, sort of. I want to see more room claims and when I wake upo I'll try to post it all up and make it legible or somethinzzzzzzzzzzz
779 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:22 am
Kotakia
i can see why you wouldn't want to because of how it sounds. just a quick question on it though, does it activate at the same time you clear a room of traps or is it something you choose on your own?
780 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:23 am
Ninfia
Admin
I can't choose whether or not I clear anything away, its just a part of my room movement.
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