welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4]

Ardonye · **901** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:56 am

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THE QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN SENT. I assume I will receive the answers a few hours before rollover. I will also start writing up a will so in the event I die, it'll confirm its existence further.

OKAY SO. One of the things that's bugging me is how when we are three votes in for chinomi Kotakia leaves due to IRL reasons and basically missed out on voting this phase. It's not the absence IRL thing that bothers me, but the fact they missed out on voting entirely. Why not drop a vote for chinomi who was the undisputed lead and most likely lynch candidate? Or vote for someone else as they did in D2 for plotstickers. I don't know. This just bothered me a lot. I'm also finding the vote this phase on AliceofOz on unusual given that we are waiting on Rasei for evidence on how they definitely know AliceofOz sent the NK on them. Basically I'm just curious why not eleni?

Second reason why Kotakia is basically now suspicious to me is that there seems to be a few too many town investigative roles. It would make sense to me, for the mafia to have one as well due to the closed roles nature of the game. Since Kiyoko was definitely a town cop, I think one of the investigators who can find out alignments/roles/things like that are mafia trying to pass as town. Now I'm not sure if Kotakia's the one, but just the most suspicious to me at the moment. Thoughts? Is it just me??

NEXT TOPIC: AliceofOz. Overall has not been a presence in thread and contributed little, which is a sign of an inactive townie or active behind-the-scenes mafia trying to say the bare minimum in order to not blow their cover.

So here are some of the posts I was scrutinizing:

Spoiler:

It bothers me how they were surprised and concerned post-rollover at drandahl's lynch but apparently was aware of the bandwagon? Why not voice concerns prior to rollover? With Rasei's additional testimony, I feel like we have our lynch target for D5.

Other people I'm FOSing: Tiki the Troll
Will be FOSed in the future especially if they are inactive/not contributing: deo, Mr. Alice, Sammiya
Not sure yet but I wanna believe: T3tsuya, Ninfia, high seraph, plotstickers, alcasync
People I see as town-aligned: Luxaria, Rasei

We still haven't found our neutral yet.

vote: eleni (do I even need to list the reason given how I voted last phase

I can't wait for the next phase to get more information from a lynch + posting/voting habits <O><O>

Tiki The Troll · **902** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:35 am

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alcasync wrote:☛ Tiki The Troll
Because he hasn't been offering much speculation on his own except for claiming his room when pressured. Almost all of his posts have been parroting information from rollover or other peoples' posts. Also whenever anyone tries to accuse him he tends to get kind of guilt trip-y and say things like "I say stupid things" or "I guess I'm just bad at mafia" and while that's probably not just a mafia tactic to make people feel too bad about voting him, it also just makes me really uncomfortable that it's the only thing he seems to really say in his own defense.

Oh, no, I'm sorry! I really don't mean to be trying to guilt trippy! I'm really, really not! I just really don't get why I apparently look so bad all the time, and it's pretty much impossible to ever ask for an opinion or advice even everyone you know, who also knows the game, is in the game, heh...

But really, frustrated as I've gotten for losing pretty much every game for those reasons, I've never wanted to survive, regardless of my affiliation, through those methods. :( So, sorry again...

But yeah, that's why I clammed up. Though I thought it would still look suspicious, I wasn't really sure what to say anymore, and, well, most questions this phase have been directed toward the other suspects anyway.

Rasei · **903** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:06 am

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My extra life was phase as such. I was told I had one extra life that could be used by either a lynch or a killing action. When I got my good morning message, it said AliceofOz moved into my room and I felt faint, it seemed I lost my extra life by either a lynch or a killing action.

Ardonye · **904** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:15 am

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@Rasei: thanks for the clarification!

Luxaria · **905** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:18 am

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Oops, just realized I forgot about the thread and never threw up a vote. Kind of burnt out after the 30 hours of mafia with a short nap intermission. I promised a speculative post earlier, and while I never fully completed it, I'll share that it involves analyzing room claims and trying to figure out if there are one or two stealthers, as well as filling in the blanks for the unclaimed rooms, and utilizing role analysis. But, I never got around to finishing it due to aforementioned burn out.

Basically, if Ninfia has been truthful, here are some examples of what we can expect:

Breakdowns:

Granted, there are a lot of possibilities depending on what is said. But I started thinking about it since chinomi's invisible partner got pulled into the question, and I started wondering about stealthers since it's very possible one is on mafia. Also, this room analysis was another reason why I used the phase end so quickly because I tried to time it where it might cause some people to get shifted around so we could learn what they had been up to.

Anyway, maybe it's pointless? Maybe not. But a lot of people have claimed roles at this point in some capacity, so I think some inconsistencies will show through in both room positioning and also who-could-be-what sort of things.

...

I'm tired.

I want to hear from Rasei with regards to how she knows there was an attempt on her life (like, what did Nautilus say to you?)? I also still want to hear from plotstickers on--eh, I guess I won't get an answer.

Vote: eleni

I'll update the infodump once more before I head to bed, I think.

Edit: @ Rasei: Can you actually ask Nautilus if you still have your bulletproof? Being "faint" might be a result of other roles.

Edit 2: The main reason I find the whole situation of room 26 curious is that AliceofOz so readily volunteered that she was roomed with Rasei (here) before Rasei even said anything about it. I guess I also find the bulletproof weird because how awkward is that where you have someone spending the night with you after they failed to kill you. But I guess in this kind of scenario, mechanics > flavor? Rasei, what's the description for your bulletproof/lynchproof/whatever-proof thing?

Luxaria · **906** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:37 am

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Link to the 24a Role List

What we know so far:

NIGHT THREE/DAY FOUR

rollover: chinomi was lynched! They were the PRINCIPAL. They were MAFIA.
rollover: The phase has prematurely ended!
rollover: There was a kill attempt on a room, but it failed!
rollover: A trap has been dismantled!
nautilus clarification: Traps do not destroy rooms.
nautilus clarification: (said previously, but to reiterate) Impeded or prevented room movements do not count to the 2-night rule like failed movements do.
Ninfia: 11 rooms were occupied N3.
T3tsuya: My room number was 23, period. See role and room claims.
Rasei: Claims to have lost her extra life (part of her claimed role) on N3. AliceofOz moved into Rasei's room.
Rasei: Sent the option to write a will to Ardonye. Ardonye confirmed receiving it.
plotstickers: "As far as I'm aware, Chinomi visited room 9 on N0."

NIGHT TWO/DAY THREE

rollover: Room 26 was locked.
rollover: Mafia (presumably) either targeted the locked room, or they targeted a room with two players in it. In any case, no one died.
rollover: Kiyoko has been killed in Room 4. She was the STUDENT. She was TOWN.
rollover: Room 4 has been destroyed and cannot be entered on future nights.
rollover: Some creepy thing appears to have been put in play. Result of "sacrificial lamb" being killed (Kiyoko?).
Mr. Alice: Claimed a role that starts out vanilla but can copy the power of a dead player. - Seems like she might copy Drandahl, the Hunter/Vigilante (?) - Seems like she can't immediately utilize the role she copies, but appears to have knowledge of the role already (?).
Mr. Alice: Says the Hunter role is a standard bullet kill. Is it night or day or both, and is it instant? Not sure?
Kiyoko: THE STUDENT was on the role list and claims she could only use it on people in her room. Alcasync proposes investigative/detective and notes that Kiyoko thinks Ardonye is town.
alcasync: Rasei didn't send in the room destruction (vigilante kill) or the NK.
Kotakia: There is a one shot "Choose the player, not the room" vigilante role out there. Once used, every 2 nights without a kill a room will be destroyed. Last night must've been the one shot vig kill because if successful, the room is destroyed.
Ninfia: 12 rooms were occupied. Room 4 was not included.
plotstickers: Sent Chi one line from a Frozen song. "Was meant to be more" but needs to confirm something first ? ** Clarification for a previous phase.
plotstickers: "I don't think Chi targeted room 8 on night zero."
It appears the trap from N1 was not triggered. If not activated, it will expire at the end of N3.

NIGHT ONE/DAY TWO

rollover: There is a silencing role.
rollover: Mr. Alice was silenced N0
rollover: No message about NK, implies a trap might have been laid.
rollover: Room 1 was locked. If a trap was laid, it was not laid in Room 1.
Kiyoko: Kiyoko's role is on the 24a role list, but she can only use it on people she shares a room with.
Kiyoko: Has a different "Good Morning" PM format than most people as part of her role.
alcasync: alca's role has a similar name to a name on the 24a list but with the ability of a different role.
alcasync: alca knows the full role description for the room locking role.
chinomi: There is a message sending role in play.
chinomi: chinomi received a letter on N1.
Sammiya: Something similar to Sammie's role is on the 24a list.
Kotakia: Kotakia's role is "kinda??? on your list. but just barely in what it does."
AliceofOz: Alice's role is on the list.
Luxaria: Lux's role "both is and is not on Kiyoko's list."
high seraph: Role name is on the list but the ability is different.
high seraph: Can use his role's information to get around the hotel safely.
The following players claimed a role not on the 24a list: Rasei, Ninfia, T3tsuya, eleni, Tiki The Troll
Known players who were paired up and therefore could not have sent in the NK: Kotakia + Ardonye, alcasync + drandahl, eleni + T3tsuya

NIGHT ZERO/DAY ONE

rollover: There is a role that locks doors.
rollover: Room 7 was locked last night.
rollover: Mafia (presumably) either targeted the locked room, or they targeted a room with two players in it. In any case, no one died.
nautilus clarification: If the NK "fails" then that means no trap is laid. So assuming the kill attempt was the NK, there is currently no trap set.
nautilus clarification: If the NK sender is roleblocked, the NK will not appear in rollover at all.
Kotakia: There is a watcher role in play who can also disarm traps.
Kiyoko: Kiyoko is not currently inclined to think that Ardonye is mafia.
alcasync: A locked room blocks actions targeted to the room and prevents players from leaving or entering the room.
alcasync: A room is only locked for one night.
Ninfia: 14 rooms had occupants
Assuming alca is telling the truth about all of that, then alca did not send in the NK last night.

Room Claims:

Roles that Exist:

D4 Vote Timestamps:

D3 Vote Timestamps:

D2 Vote Timestamps:

I think that's everything? Hmm. I feel like I might've missed some room claims... ugh. T_T

Edit: Hey wait. Ninfia claims there were 11 rooms occupied N3? 12 people have claimed a total of 7 rooms. That leaves 3 people that have not claimed, bringing the total to a maximum of 10 rooms.

Interesting. Now I really want to double-check, but if the infodump is accurate... HM!

But I am exhausted. I am going to sleep before I dig through LITERALLY EVERYTHING. ;_; Anyone else, feel free to investigate.

Edit 2: Also, noticed in the role list there are 15 roles out of 18 players, 3 of which are dead. So 12 roles for 15 active players. Interesting.

OKAY BED NOW TIRED BYE.

Last edited by Luxaria on Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:49 am; edited 1 time in total

nautilus · **907** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:48 am

stoat alley.

Ardonye · **908** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:54 am

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I stayed alone last night, in case that wasn't clear from my inquiries earlier. I haven't been revealing my room numbers because I don't want people to guess where I'm going :v

Also I'm pretty positive that the will is legit.

Rasei · **909** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:06 am

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I pretty positive I'm not bulletproof anymore, since the pm states my extra life was used.

AliceofOz · **910** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:14 am

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That awkward moment when your roomie hates your guts. I guess Rasei has a valid reason for suspecting me, but I didn't do it.

I'm sorry for the inactivity but I can't help it.

That said, I can't contribute a lot of info because my role is practically useless. Let's just say that I 'use' it during the day phase and it's done nooothing.

Vote : Eleni

high seraph · **911** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:21 am

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Is there less than an hour left before rollover? The wait is killing me lmao I had a dream I came to check the thread and I was about to get lynched omg

@AliceofOz while we're all interested in your role, there are plenty of other ways you can help us out and maybe clear yourself from suspicion. Look maybe fill out this form?

1- What do you think the nk attempt shown in rollover refers to, if not your rooming with Rasei?
2- Can you tell us a little about where you were when d3 ended? Did you have any particular reasons to hurry so much and send your movement? Did you even move on your own?
3- What are your thoughts on the other players? Who are you most wary of?
4- Can you tell us what your room movements have been throughout the game?

Tiki The Troll · **912** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:23 am

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Luxaria wrote:Edit 2: Also, noticed in the role list there are 15 roles out of 18 players, 3 of which are dead. So 12 roles for 15 active players. Interesting.

As for my role, Here is what it has contributed to me, and the game as a whole so far:

So, you may understand why I've been hesitant to discuss it so far, heh...I have pretty much no way of defending myself. So...if anyone DOES have info that could help, please, help?

Boned...

But yep. I'm The Preacher. And yeah, investigative roles bring claimed out the wazoo already, but this is a role where, if there's a person by their self in an adjacent room, they can go into confessional with me. What that amounts to is learning the name of their role, the name of the player, and how long they've been in that room. Would have really helped me call people out on claims...if it had ever worked.

It's also only usable every other night, and I have to pick which room, to the left or right of me to talk to. Used it twice so far, and nothing. I've actually used it on room 2 both nights I've tried, so I know at least there was either no one, or two people in there on night 1 and night 3, bit that's all, heh...

Of yeah, and vote: eleni, I guess.

nautilus · **913** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:24 am

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there's like an hour and a half lucas it's okay.

Clam down.

"Calm down, you mean?"

"No, clam down." You look at my hands, which are holding chinomi's clam from the other day. Kiyoko voted it to death from the afterlife. I shed a tear. This clam died so young. Mafia is brutal

high seraph · **914** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:26 am

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Did chinomis clam just get lynched

nautilus · **915** Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:28 am

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It's a reference to one of my friend's favourite text post jokes and I've wanted to incorporate it into the game somehow as thanks for him listening to me vent about this game for the past week

I'm so glad an actual clam came up at some point in the game so I could use it

Anyways rollover is like an hour and a half from now

Btw my friend also said he's really happy everyone liked the picture he drew

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welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4]

901 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:56 am

Ardonye

902 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:35 am

Tiki The Troll

903 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:06 am

Rasei

904 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:15 am

Ardonye

905 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:18 am

Luxaria

906 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:37 am

Luxaria

907 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:48 am

nautilus

stoat alley.

908 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:54 am

Ardonye

909 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:06 am

Rasei

910 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:14 am

AliceofOz

911 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:21 am

high seraph

912 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:23 am

Tiki The Troll

913 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:24 am

nautilus

914 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:26 am

high seraph

915 Re: welcome to the b & b [PART 1: N0-N4] Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:28 am

nautilus

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