Red Riding Hood Mafia - TOWN WIN!

There are clear benefits to explaining a vote before the end part of the phase and they have little to do with any pressure on me. 1. It prevents players from making a lynch based on a false assumption. 2. It tells the other players in the game what I am doing.

Please tell me Rasei voting none does not count as their final vote.

Sorry for the double post but the phase is running low on time and I've got no strong leads so unvote: Megrid, vote: no-lynch .

@ Rasei: The ratio is currently 4 town to 2 mafia, if you are town sealing your vote as a no-vote puts us in a bit of difficult situation as it means if another town votes a town by mistake the mafia can vote with them in order to get a mislynch. Why would you vote no-vote over no-lynch when there is the possibility that if the mafia manage a mislynch on a town and then get a successful night kill, they could possibly win? (if the woodsman does not hit a mafia)
Also, is this your first game of mafia?

If Rasei hasn't played much mafia or hasn't played with us before then that may explain why they are playing differently then we might expect. If they are town, I do find them a convenient target for a mafia mislynch. I'm not surprised that Rasei voted me for making an unexplained vote, we all want to know more at this point. A move sealing in a vote on no-vote seems pretty unproductive in a small game but it seems to me more likely to come from inexperience rather than alignment.

@drandahl: I figured that mafia wouldn't use the big bad wolf's ability on mafia, so the ratio is accurate.

@Kotakia: There's no voting activity requirement. There's actually no activity requirement at all. I probably should have made one!

NO ONE was lynched.

Just woke up. Heading to work so this will be a short post, but.

I would still like to hear from Rasei about why she voted the way she did.

I would also like to hear drandahl's thoughts on what he would have voted, since he didn't vote.

drandahl wrote:I'm going to retain my votes until morning, in case they'll be useful then.

Did you sleep in or just decide your vote wouldn't be useful?

Cthuluhoop wrote:Sorry for the double post but the phase is running low on time and I've got no strong leads so unvote: Megrid, vote: no-lynch .

@ Rasei: The ratio is currently 4 town to 2 mafia, if you are town sealing your vote as a no-vote puts us in a bit of difficult situation as it means if another town votes a town by mistake the mafia can vote with them in order to get a mislynch. Why would you vote no-vote over no-lynch when there is the possibility that if the mafia manage a mislynch on a town and then get a successful night kill, they could possibly win? (if the woodsman does not hit a mafia)
Also, is this your first game of mafia?

 If Rasei hasn't played much mafia or hasn't played with us before then that may explain why they are playing differently then we might expect. If they are town, I do find them a convenient target for a mafia mislynch. I'm not surprised that Rasei voted me for making an unexplained vote, we all want to know more at this point. A move sealing in a vote on no-vote seems pretty unproductive in a small game but it seems to me more likely to come from inexperience rather than alignment.

When I changed my vote, I was expecting to go to bed. As I'm out of the house by roll over, I wouldn't have time to check the computer to see the voting. I haven't played mafia with you guys before, and the place I played before had slightly different rules.

Rasei wrote:the place I played before had slightly different rules.

Can you expand on this? Like, I imagine it might explain your reason for no-voting but I'd like some clarification, please!

Edit: By that I mean, what kind of ruleset are you used to?

I know it's a bit late to reply, but...

drandahl wrote:

Meg: Can you explain why you chose to lock in a no-lynch from a position of no votes yet, instead of just not voting at all?

Mostly because like I said, I had something spring up that I needed to leave ASAP for, and I didn't want to rush a vote against someone when I was kinda running late at that time, and didn't have anyone sticking out to me as someone to definitely pick. I also highly doubted I could've made it back on here before rollover to change it, (work) and sure enough, I didn't.

So, mostly I was rushing and didn't think straight. :|

Kiyoko wrote:I would also like to hear drandahl's thoughts on what he would have voted, since he didn't vote. [...] Did you sleep in or just decide your vote wouldn't be useful?

Yes, I slept in.. I had intended on using my votes if any mafia tried to push a lynch or if any mafia 'forgot' to remove their votes.

If I had to have voted anything, I probably would have placed my vote on Megrid. They started discussion very early on, though I didn't see them add much to the conversation at that point. Their locked-in no-vote was slightly surprising. However, neither of these things are strong evidence at all, so please take that into consideration. Also, I'm willing to believe they needed to rush out, as they mentioned later.

Otherwise, I had even less reason to suspect anyone else at that moment. I have some thoughts running around about the general engagement and time of engagement of each of the players so far, but it's pretty vague at this point. I'll consider D1 separately in a separate post.

Quick clarifying question though: Didn't Kiyo still have a vote on Rasei at the end of the day? Why didn't she get lynched?

Am I missing something here?

Kiyoko wrote:

Rasei wrote:the place I played before had slightly different rules.

Can you expand on this? Like, I imagine it might explain your reason for no-voting but I'd like some clarification, please!

Edit: By that I mean, what kind of ruleset are you used to?

If there were to many town lynches, then the mafia got an extra kill.

Also the one I played the most had only one killer who killed every night, and the town lynch every day trying to get the killer. It had limited roles, but there were only really 5 playing the game. The killer won when there was only one town left.

@Drandahl I think it was because more people voted for no lynch.