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Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB]

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Kotakia
Ardonye
Cure
Rodea
lulu
kiku
plotstickers
Sammiya
chinomi
Rasei
eleni
Mr. Alice
drandahl
high seraph
Jaiser
nautilus
AliceofOz
Tiki The Troll
Luxaria
Ninfia
Kiyoko
alcasync
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781Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:21 am

eleni

eleni

My apologies Blaire, I've been out shopping groceries for our next meal. I have a few ideas, I think...

(oh my god l-lol you guys talk so much /o\ CATCHING UP NOW on like. 8 pages??)

THIS IS THE MOST EMBARRASSING/USELESS PAGETOP EVER

782Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:24 am

chinomi

chinomi

Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 COSIvL0VAAAaeCc

buys everyone this sweater

783Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:25 am

Mr. Alice

Mr. Alice

I love you let's just get married. Did you get my message?! :DDD

784Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:25 am

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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For... some reason eleni/Blaire works really well for me it is exactly my kind of ship. Maybe I will do fan art after I finish drawing like 9301293291 things for cinnamon bun when I have time.

OKAY so that this post isn't completely useless. I had a thought about recruiting. It didn't show up as an intermission thing which makes me think that the recruiting happened at the end of the phase, so the player who was recruited probably thought they were town throughout all of D1. I dunno if that helps, but if there's any player who suddenly went back on their D1 theories at the start of N1, that might be a clue?

The Facts:

Hints and claims:

ACTUAL CURRENT RELATIONSHIPS:

Relationship Timeline:

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

785Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:28 am

Sammiya

Sammiya
Admin

"Eh? Why would I need saving, Blaire-chan...? G-gomenasai, Cure-senpai.... I'll do better next time!"


(That sweater omg.)


Maybe it's role related then, somehow? But people that went suddenly back on what they were saying... I can't think of anyone at the moment, but it's late.

https://crywolf.rpg-board.net

786Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:33 am

Kiyoko

Kiyoko
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I'd have to reread thread since I wasn't reading posts with that in mind but yeah it's way too late in the day for me to even attempt that now.

...I'm also

...not looking forward to backreading like 20 pages of thread, since D1 starts on page 32. On that note, I'm going to have to pre-split thread soon and I'd like to do that at the next rollover but we only have 214 posts left til force-split and at the rate we post we might not make it. I'm heading to bed though so. As long as Lucas doesn't misinterpret his role and post frantic walls of text at Sammie again we should be okay.

http://kiyokon.tumblr.com

787Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:25 am

eleni

eleni

Mr. Alice wrote:
Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 RiknJt7
Why would I need mafia cookies when I have my dear Eleni's cookies~? ♥♥♥
It's true. I did bake some chocolate chip cookies for Blaire last night.

Mr. Alice wrote:I love you let's just get married. Did you get my message?! :DDD
Yes, I sent a response back.

...I'll think about your offer. I do enjoy cooking for someone who loves food so much.

Kiyoko wrote:For... some reason eleni/Blaire works really well for me it is exactly my kind of ship. Maybe I will do fan art after I finish drawing like 9301293291 things for cinnamon bun when I have time.
(LMAO omg. yes please.)


OK SO. i'm still digesting posts... there was so much to catch up on that i feel like i probably missed some details. /o\ i forgot how much effort it is to keep up with maf games this big a-ahaha

but ok yes, the changed ratio is pretty alarming. umm i think everyone has pretty much covered theories on the recruitment ability, but... i guess the only upside to the recruitment happening this early is that we don't have any "confirmed" players yet and almost everyone is a ??? so i think that's good at least. and by that, i mean that we don't have to go back and re-evaluate everyone's alignment lol. (edit too much, at least)

also... i'm wondering if maf might have investigated someone who turned out to be an important power role n0, and made a move to immediately recruit that person rather than wait to recruit a confirmed town?

anyhow, i don't have much of a suspicion list?? i think for the most part my list matches everyone else's. though i would add that i'm not suspicious of Blaire atm, just because she confessed to me n0 really early (~an hour after the game started?). i mean it doesn't say anything concrete about her alignment, but i do think that maf would have taken some more time to group together after the game started and discuss what strategies they'd want to take re: confessions/secondary abilities. so yeah unless new info comes up next phase, i'd be disinclined to vote for Blaire! ...and also she's been sending me cute messages ; w;

also ugh i keep on forgetting to say this but the rollovers are amazing LOL.

alcasync wrote:You! are all! underage students!
brb dead

788Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:37 am

drandahl

drandahl

Kiyoko wrote:
Relationship Timeline:
Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Kiyoko10"Um, excuse me?! Did you forget that I mentioned in the note I left on the classroom bulletin that I neither sent nor received confessions N0? Honestly, it's like I don't even exist to you, do I? You're so cozied up with that brainy guy... it's not like I can't be studious... I just don't shove it in everyone's face..."

"UGH. You make me sick, you jerk!"

789Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:26 am

drandahl

drandahl

((Note, sorry for the multi-post. Had company over this evening, and didn't have enough time to both stay up-to-date and also post my thoughts.))

Another note can be found on the classroom bulletin, written in grey ink:

note:

790Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:21 am

drandahl

drandahl

((Last one before going to bed. Sorry blaire, still working on hungerbear, will post later...))

high seraph wrote:I mean, we have seen mysterious voice 1, 2 and 3 on the N0 trailer, and now we've seen 4 and 5. What feels the funniest about this is that mysterious voice 5 is clearly the recently-recruited mafia member but...

Wouldn't that person be mysterious voice 7? ??/ ? And also there's the mention of food and that? ?? kinda makes me think of a particular player? Or m-maybe i shouldn't try to read too hard into rollover...

Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Highse10Drandahl looked up from his book to briefly discuss the matters at hand with his glasses-wearing colleague. "I do follow your line of reasoning... the original 'mysterious voices of {1,2,3}' were clearly a strict subset of the full 'mysterious voices of {1,...,6}' at that time. The new 'mysterious voices found in rollover' should be a strict subset of the full 'mysterious voices of {1,...,7}'. I would expect the last of these voices would be assigned from {1,...,6} - {1,...,5}, though it's technically consistent if it were assigned from {1,...,6} - {1,2,3}, thought that would imply an identifier that isn't monotonically increasing... and really, who would do something silly like that unless given good reason to?"

Drandahl realized he was getting off topic. "Ah, but my real comment is that if we're considering the mention of food in the text, we should also probably consider the mention of money. I mean, that's kind of what the true rumors are suggesting ("they say there’s an underground student group that’s been embezzling all of the school’s funds for illicit club activities"), though if this is another fanfic, these details might have the intention of leading us to lynch Mr-chan and/or T3t-kun."

791Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:31 am

high seraph

high seraph

ohayou!! I need to do the dishes so I'll discreetly tape this poster on the hallway bulletin board, right next to drandahl's note. It's very important information so be sure to check it thoroughly alright guys.

Very Important Information:

Kiyokiss wrote:As long as Lucas doesn't misinterpret his role and post frantic walls of text at Sammie again we should be okay.
I'M GOING TO TRY KIYOKO-CHAN I PROMISE



Last edited by high seraph on Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:40 am; edited 2 times in total

792Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:47 am

Luxaria

Luxaria

That chart is beautiful, though if I were to make one suggestion, I think T3tsuya should be in a relationship with himself. Just feels like it fits, noncanonically.

793Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:49 am

nautilus

nautilus

((Sorry for disappearing abruptly last night while asking for Plot to confirm her relationship information, l-lol. I decided to leave the thread for a few hours, which ended up being the rest of the night, whoops.

I don't really have much else to say on the recruiter role, since a lot of other players have laid out what I thought, though I do think acting in the day phase may have been a reason to act D1 (if they had the decision to) since last night illustrated that there are a ton of stunners on the town side and mafia may not have wanted interference or tracking on the action.

The problem is that we don't really have any way to determine the exact nature of the recruiter, the role, and the recruited outside of these theories we're throwing out unless someone has a role ability that can find the role later on, but I do think what Kiyoko said was interesting re: changed speculation.


But let's say someone with lower activity or completely out of scrutiny is chosen. If they ever get outted/lynched for any means, that's just an, "Oh, hey, we got a lurking mafia" and we might dismiss them as always having been mafia... and still suspect some prominent players, since naturally you would expect mafia to go for a strong player. In other words, by choosing someone rather low on the list, you create more pressure for players on the top of the list to fend off suspicions while still bolstering your numbers.


Mhm, but I think this becomes a question of whether or not picking a laying low player is worth it. Ultimately, the reason why mafia would want to recruit (or, at least, the major reason) would be either to bolster their numbers or add to an already existing arsenal. If they choose a player that is likely to be lynched, then regardless of whether or not you recruited them to up the pressure on other players to defend themselves, you're still going to lose a member of the mafia regardless, rendering your numbers advantage moot. In addition, recruiting because it switches player's alignments is also inherently damaging to the town, since it removes one player from the town and causes town's numbers game to get weaker. If the player swapped is a low-laying town player, then that's not that damaging to town, since they weren't contributing a lot or were inactive and would have trended to being suspicious anyways.

I suppose I don't argue that it's impossible, but I'd view it unlikely? Perhaps that's just me, because the only time I've seen a recruiter role in use was a role that went and picked a clear who also happened to be a strong player, which was super damaging to the town.

This is entering WIFOM territory either way since we ... probably don't have any way to confirm what the nature of the recruiting role is unless we have role detectives in this game, so.

Um. So, uh, while we're at it, I'd like to hear more from the following players... if it's not too much to ask:
deo - I... feel like he's been kind of quiet? But I also know he started school recently??

kiku/Rodea - I know both of them are new and trying their best, though, so ;o;9

adawg - hasn't said anything in the way of speculation so far this entire game, but I refuse to policy vote for her in future phases because I've been burned a lot by things like that. I get that some players would advocate policy lynching inactives or players that are unhelpful but I can't do that because it ends up, more often than not, mafia leaping onto the bandwagon haha

plotstickers - Who confessed to you, Plot. Did you meet a cute person at WcDonalds


What do you all think about the likelihood of M-T, M-M, and M- (staying single) relationships? Do you think mafia would want to avoid establishing early relationships with other players?


I'm going to say that I think it's extremely possible for the mafia to have roles that benefit them if they're in a relationship, like being able to affect your partner somehow (investigate them? etc.,). In that vein, if the mafia has antagonistic to town relationship effects, I figure it would be advantageous for mafia to pair with town quickly to take advantage of them or wait until the right moment, rather than staying single.

The issue I see with M-T would be that T player would have to accept the confession, which isn't a 100% thing, and that the M player would have to risk the T player having some kind of pro-town relationship effect, so it's some weird two-way street.

I guess one other point that kind of struck me as interesting is that a few players yesterday expressed views that lynching people is really helpful but then voted no lynch in the exact same post h-haha. It's not really a huge thing, but it's something that caught me offguard, haha


KYOKO-CHAN


who this))

794Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:14 am

Jaiser

Jaiser

...I can't stop seeing a sword in Seraph's chart.

http://jack-kaiser.deviantart.com/

795Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] - Page 53 Empty Re: Gakuen Mafia EP01-EP03 [ENG SUB] Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:18 am

nautilus

nautilus

((Addendum: My reasoning for not suspecting Kotakia at this time is actually far less substantial than my reasoning for not suspecting ezreal or Ninfia, but it's mostly because she's been extremely forthcoming with information without having to be prompted that elevates her slightly above the remainder of the class.

I do agree with previous comments that it would be good to establish the veracity of Sammiya/Rasei's role, since if it is true then I do think at least one of them would be town.

Finally: this is completely out of curiosity, but Kiyoko, what happens if you try to vote for someone lol))

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